Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71032 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 9566 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2014 20:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2014 20:13:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:57559] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C3/A9-62543-2190BC25 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 14:50:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 26379 invoked by uid 89); 6 Jan 2014 19:50:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO linux-dev4.lsces.org.uk) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 6 Jan 2014 19:50:39 -0000 Message-ID: <52CB099C.1020009@lsces.co.uk> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 19:53:00 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <52CAFCE2.8060608@sugarcrm.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC votes no longer visible From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Hannes Magnusson wrote: > Note that all votes become public after the voting has been closed. > There is no secret here - except when the votes are being counted, the > results are "pending". > > I personally think this could fix some of the flaws we have in the > voting RFC, and maybe even get more people to participate in the > voting. > > The voting RFC says nothing about the individual vote needing to > actually be public even after the results are in. > It is also very unclear on who actually can vote, but thats a separate ting. Not having a vote I can't influence anything anyway, but I DO take note of what people feel about various changes being proposed. From my point of view, seeing who is supporting or opposing something influences whether I take a closer look at something. While comments on the lists may be adequate, seeing that there are objections via the voting is important to me! If people I respect enter what seems to be an alternate view, then it can be picked up before voting closes rather than when it's already a done deal? This thread was copied to the web-master list as 'more appropriate', but is a perfect example of where a central discussion is necessary. The new website is now even more disjointed than it was and searching the site to review rfc's is another casualty if decisions made elsewhere? I'm having to run searches on saparate areas of the new site and getting excessive multilingual results for something that a simple single search used to provide? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk