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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC votes no longer visible
From: salathe@php.net (Peter Cowburn)

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On 6 January 2014 18:58, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > I=92d rather see discussion on the subject than an immediate revert; no=
t
> that
> > I=92m against reverting in any way. Let=92s make the changes, if we do =
decide
> > to make any, be beneficial.
>
> I don't think this is how it should work. This is a pretty big change in
> voting process, it should be discussed *first*, and only then merged, if
> it's agreeable. Going back to the old "first merge, then maybe discuss
> if enough people protest" is not a good development. It's not the PHP
> source code but the community environment now but it doesn't differ - we
> should still do it the right way. I don't see this change as anything
> urgent or necessary to be put in immediately, and there are obvious
> objections from many people - myself included, btw. So let's please
> first back off the controversial change and then discuss it.
>
>
If you insist, I would feel rude stepping on Hannes=92 toes though.



>  > It had been around for such a long time that I figure any complaints
> would
> > have been raised and addressed between the initial PR [1] and now.  Fun=
ny
>
> Nobody looked at this PR or knew it is going to be merged. That's why we
> have a process of announcing things and initiating discussion - because
> most people don't regularly review all pulls that are pending in all repo=
s.
>
> --
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>

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