Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71027 php.webmaster:18054 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 98425 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2014 18:46:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2014 18:46:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=petercowburn@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=petercowburn@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: petercowburn@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.53 mail-qa0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.53] ([209.85.216.53:63135] helo=mail-qa0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 49/77-62543-F1AFAC25 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:46:56 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j5so3304678qaq.5 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 10:46:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=PZSjRmDnYU6Dz8iHq9kHLRLTkwZVdz6Grd5DcEwJ+TU=; b=JbIRaL3+g0HkvAtL9ah0E9//do7FDsKYpyir4vh1SzZDcx8D7uyeM9l1Rz1oojMiFv tOvT+6RDv74UeOTptorGmQYZUdyYGxlrF53Xd7LiUes96kk7lkGCkb6nOWcZoK5jGMsh tT4ax3tI5rvjww4Nj6kyXkl1uNhKASEvLgbCBkbzsoqmTO3I/EOF/q6L+fXjIHhQm2Cp RAkIWIdeORMtjcEwevzIDweRztz27bLJNmGakLLz3W2lq0QuV8tMqbN5VTfl0fERbeZS bmSW0WIc5muP1eXfunQu0ooeqIhKwO3ySw6Rz04tTIht3ql85LXa3OK8cU5FtXV/P2Wq o4AA== X-Received: by 10.229.71.5 with SMTP id f5mr179197695qcj.18.1389034013675; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 10:46:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: petercowburn@gmail.com Received: by 10.96.165.2 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:46:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 18:46:13 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: M5A4_vqh4CTBH5A22zkL2WTsOuY Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Nikita Popov , PHP internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133bfaaf7707d04ef51aef5 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC votes no longer visible From: salathe@php.net (Peter Cowburn) --001a1133bfaaf7707d04ef51aef5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 6 January 2014 17:28, Pierre Joye wrote: > hi, > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Nikita Popov wrote= : > > Hi folks! > > > > Recently a change was committed [1] that no longer displays votes on > active > > RFCs. I think this would have merited discussion beforehand, so I'm > > starting that discussion now. > > > > I can see where this comes from (avoid herd effect?), but I don't think > > it's a good idea. I can't even see votes on my own RFCs, so I don't kno= w > > how things are going and if there are still issues. Also this prevents > the > > "vote reason" column that was suggested in several recent discussions. > That > > would seem like a much more valuable change than just removing the vote= s. > > it does not make any sense. And it should not have been done without a > discussion. > > @peter Please revert. > I=92d rather see discussion on the subject than an immediate revert; not th= at I=92m against reverting in any way. Let=92s make the changes, if we do deci= de to make any, be beneficial. The offending change was a suuuppppeeerrrr old pull request that had been laying around forever and Hannes decided to merge it. It had been around for such a long time that I figure any complaints would have been raised and addressed between the initial PR [1] and now. Funny how people like to voice their dissent after-the-fact (just an observation, not a prompt for discussion). CC-ing webmaster list as a more appropriate forum. [1] https://github.com/php/web-wiki/pull/1 > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org > --001a1133bfaaf7707d04ef51aef5--