Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:71026 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96970 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2014 18:42:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jan 2014 18:42:13 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 198.187.29.241 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 198.187.29.241 imap3-1.ox.registrar-servers.com Received: from [198.187.29.241] ([198.187.29.241:45156] helo=imap3-1.ox.registrar-servers.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 11/27-62543-409FAC25 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:42:12 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oxmail.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DFB2A0053; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:42:09 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap3.ox.registrar-servers.com Received: from oxmail.registrar-servers.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap3.ox.registrar-servers.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id S7w7p9ZX5KGJ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:42:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.200] (unknown [90.201.41.104]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oxmail.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 611D42A0083; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:42:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <52CAF900.7080702@ajf.me> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 18:42:08 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nikita Popov , PHP internals References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC votes no longer visible From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 06/01/14 16:24, Nikita Popov wrote: > I can see where this comes from (avoid herd effect?), but I don't think > it's a good idea. I can't even see votes on my own RFCs, so I don't know > how things are going and if there are still issues. Also this prevents the > "vote reason" column that was suggested in several recent discussions. That > would seem like a much more valuable change than just removing the votes. I really don't like this. This isn't politics or elections, this is PHP. We have completely open mailing list discussions, where you can see people's opinions. I see no reason to hide people's votes. Secret ballots are useful where privacy is particularly important. I don't see why this is really desirable here, considering we do *everything else* in the open! -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/