Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70993 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57279 invoked from network); 3 Jan 2014 19:44:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Jan 2014 19:44:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.169 mail-ob0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.169] ([209.85.214.169:42578] helo=mail-ob0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 92/26-12805-51317C25 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:44:22 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id wm4so16030928obc.14 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 11:44:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=mDpQ1dJL36npZ6h4Id5SMa960L+9RytQZy1kVz838WU=; b=VlQ1w4Wg7ersLmXqwZSRzMk/pxXrwHN9XSyHqOSGRhytX0YSCBv5yTq4HW/iNFFYcw BFXCQNIzKx+MAkXy/ZLrEkW2VZsGhTB5iC5Ht31cSE3oO8fsoS114wwtjjJKsjd/ktoC t6++fhY+LSorS6SUchIDFoePGJt32QWImFvt+8ouRKFZ40PKZI8XkIuzYH4OVSvKY6hT Lpj0xIDIeUpTxx6kGa/7Ulrfjl6ipkETn8H2MMTWKRU/Mpq6MDfcJsTTksCjg1F1MIk1 BMAVVgIlwV0PntjwvueOc1RWH1V4O3SOSNBZdFNQAICBTyEJAc7zkDW2k1xqql1GUo2D xM3Q== X-Received: by 10.60.50.202 with SMTP id e10mr60817682oeo.39.1388778259462; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 11:44:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.24.70 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:43:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <52C6E2F2.2020408@ajf.me> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 14:43:59 -0500 Message-ID: To: Sara Golemon Cc: Levi Morrison , Andrea Faulds , Pierre Joye , zhifeng hu , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c30946d3c01c04ef16220d Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it possible introduce HHVM into PHP kernel tree? From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") --001a11c30946d3c01c04ef16220d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I would be very happy with this decision, but I have some concerns too. Will detail each one - CLA As Pierre mentioned - Existing extension (read as PECL) support There're a lot of existing PECL extensions, that are tied to ZE. While it would be a collective effort to migrate existing ones to HHVM, it would be a huge effort for everyone, not only core. I foresee a lot of discrepancies during this transition. Like possible BC breaks, such as some I've seen with thread (HHVM) support compared to pthreads (PHP). If HHVM was able to provide a wrapper support for ZE API, that would simplify a lot of work around existing PECL extensions and 3rd party contributors. - Code organization After some time around php internals, you get used to its structure and where everything is implemented/organized. I am trying to regularly contribute to HHVM and keep my tools compatible. I find myself relying on search most of the time to find where things are. =\ It may be my lack of experience, but that's what I personally feel. - Compatibility A lot of effort is needed to get everything compatible, up and running. This requires more and more effort. Cheers, On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > >> Unless some commits have been merged that I am not aware of, you still > can't > >> use callable type-hints (https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/1363). > >> While I can't imagine it is difficult for HHVM to finish support for the > >> callable type-hint, it does show an example of a major compatibility > issue > >> as your code will not run at all. > >> > > P.S. - FWIW, the fix for that bug (hate to play semantics, but it's a > > bug, not a parity gap) is on its way out. Basically just been delayed > > by the holidays. > > > Scratch that, the fix was committed last week. Drew just forgot to > add "Closes #1363" to his commit message. > > > https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/commit/06f4711821b1db0a2ef9ac56ec2186bcb0049651#diff-ede14f13ebae67ee268413ed558d1acf > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Guilherme Blanco MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com GTalk: guilhermeblanco Toronto - ON/Canada --001a11c30946d3c01c04ef16220d--