Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70867 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67181 invoked from network); 24 Dec 2013 01:38:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Dec 2013 01:38:43 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.11 experimentalworks.net Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:38:42 -0500 Received: from [217.114.215.11] ([217.114.215.11:27550] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0C/73-41130-1A5E8B25 for ; Mon, 23 Dec 2013 20:38:42 -0500 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <52B5522A.4040709@lsces.co.uk> User-Agent: slrn/pre1.0.0-18 (Linux) Message-ID: X-Posted-By: 217.114.215.11 Subject: Re: Censorship in php From: dsp@php.net (David Soria Parra) Lester Caine schrieb: > I know I will get my head chewed off, but I'm going to speak out anyway ... > > In a world where 'fixed width' web style is pushed as the standard, the PHP site > has always been a breath of fresh air with it's full width style. It used to > work nicely on wide format monitors which I'm sure many of you use on your > development systems. If the 'change of style' has been discussed anywhere, I've > not seen that discussion but that is not unusual nowadays as all these little > cliques seem to work off-line and then dump the results on us. The new > 'feedback' area seems to be hosted elsewhere anyway? > > The 'style' of having voting only FOR something without the ability to object, > and the blocking of the alternate view is simply not acceptable. How many votes > would 'hate it' get if it was not blocked? > > But what is even more irritating here is the fact that we have the technology to > provide all of the flexibility for both styles of working to co-exist. That is > what PHP is all about, so why when all of the content is dynamic anyway do we > have to live with what is perceived by a few as better. Currently I'm having > problems with something which was never a problem ... changing between > sub-domains also needs a change of font size to make the site usable on my > 3840x1200 desktop. > > PLEASE can we have 'theme' as a selection in the same way that 'language' can be > changed. This is simply a lot more practical than the attempt to create a > 'responsive' style that is a compromise on virtually all desktops :( Your constant complains have been noticed. Please refer to the right mailinglist with the right attitude. In addition to that I highly recommend sending patches over constant ranting and keeping away people from doing actual work. Communities like PHP are here to WORK together on a problem and the people who work on it (or any surrounding noteable projects) discuss it. If you don't have anything to contribute write a blog entry about it, but internal is not the right place for you rants. I am not sure if I have to get any clearer about that. Thank you.