Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70828 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67078 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2013 09:46:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Dec 2013 09:46:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:43362] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/99-07676-FE4B6B25 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 04:46:24 -0500 Received: (qmail 13082 invoked by uid 89); 22 Dec 2013 09:46:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO linux-dev4.lsces.org.uk) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 22 Dec 2013 09:46:20 -0000 Message-ID: <52B6B587.4000107@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 09:48:55 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <52B5522A.4040709@lsces.co.uk> <52B55E6D.6050602@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Censorship in php From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Levi Morrison wrote: > The webmaster list has been around for a while; it's not a new list by any means... If the discussion was on the webmaster list then fine. But currently the website is promoting a new venue for discussion not hosted by php.net as far as I can tell with no linkage back to the project at all? It requires a separate login and it's the control and administration of this which I am questioning. Like composer and php-fig it seems that the core project is happy to let others take control of what I consider fundamental development decisions and then drive developments within the project to better match that view of forward development. I will ask once again that PHP5.6 is shelved in favour of PHP6 to allow those of us who were happy with the stability that PHP used to provide to stabilise it once again with a version that we at least stand a chance of catching up with. Since the general feeling here seems to be that if someone is willing to promote their own pet project then so be it, perhaps now is the time to take advantage of DVCS and start promoting a 'simple PHP' project based on a time before 'e_strict' ... I still have sites that need reworking before they can be used on more modern PHP installations safely, so the suggestion that I should be monitoring even more lists does not go down well! -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk