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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Censorship in php
From: tessarek@evermeet.cx (Helmut Tessarek)

On 21.12.13 17:33 , Rowan Collins wrote:
> Rather than accepting a negative reaction as inevitable, perhaps you should
> think how you can improve your chances of a positive engagement. The PHP
> website links to a few "house rules" for these mailing lists [1], but beyond
> that a few things occur to me that would have improved your post (at least in
> my personal opinion):

Are you serious? Now I really have to speak out as well.

People in this list talk down to anybody who is not in their inner circle.
Very often you get condescending replies and good ideas are pushed aside,
because not in the interest of the core developers.

It's not the first time that I heard and read that 'we can't do that, because
it would break thousands of apps' (just an example).
This is interesting, because Ruby, Python and Perl can do such stuff.
For sake of backwards compatibility PHP keeps certain misbehavioral
properties, which actually happens to make PHP an inconsistent language.
Unless you know _exactly_ _every_ settings and _every_ function, you cannot
predict what PHP might do.
Any discussion regarding this topic always comes to this point: we have to
live with it.

A lot of constructive feedback gets ignored because people in this list think
it has a negative tone, while using condescending language on their side.

A little bit of double standards, don't you think?

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regards Helmut K. C. Tessarek
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