Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70807 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70746 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2013 09:22:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2013 09:22:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:46420] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A5/C2-50487-ADD55B25 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:22:35 -0500 Received: (qmail 25128 invoked by uid 89); 21 Dec 2013 09:22:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO linux-dev4.lsces.org.uk) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 21 Dec 2013 09:22:31 -0000 Message-ID: <52B55E6D.6050602@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 09:25:01 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: <52B5522A.4040709@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Censorship in php From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Kalle Sommer Nielsen wrote: > 2013/12/21 Lester Caine: >> >I know I will get my head chewed off, but I'm going to speak out anyway ... > I don't see how this is internals related, the webmaster list is more > the place to go for this, so I would say thats the first reason why > you might feel like your head gets chewed off That is perhaps part of the problem? With the increasing number of lists and the vast escalation in work being done, there is not a single location where an overview can be obtained - now even on the website! Add external projects that are now being used as part of the core standards and things get even more confusing. Surely this is the core of the project and needs some control on how the project as a whole moves forward? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk