Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70803 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63646 invoked from network); 21 Dec 2013 08:30:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Dec 2013 08:30:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.204 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.204 mail4.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.204] ([217.147.176.204:55361] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0E/51-50487-79155B25 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 03:30:16 -0500 Received: (qmail 17817 invoked by uid 89); 21 Dec 2013 08:30:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO linux-dev4.lsces.org.uk) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@81.138.11.136) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 21 Dec 2013 08:30:12 -0000 Message-ID: <52B5522A.4040709@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 08:32:42 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Censorship in php From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) I know I will get my head chewed off, but I'm going to speak out anyway ... In a world where 'fixed width' web style is pushed as the standard, the PHP site has always been a breath of fresh air with it's full width style. It used to work nicely on wide format monitors which I'm sure many of you use on your development systems. If the 'change of style' has been discussed anywhere, I've not seen that discussion but that is not unusual nowadays as all these little cliques seem to work off-line and then dump the results on us. The new 'feedback' area seems to be hosted elsewhere anyway? The 'style' of having voting only FOR something without the ability to object, and the blocking of the alternate view is simply not acceptable. How many votes would 'hate it' get if it was not blocked? But what is even more irritating here is the fact that we have the technology to provide all of the flexibility for both styles of working to co-exist. That is what PHP is all about, so why when all of the content is dynamic anyway do we have to live with what is perceived by a few as better. Currently I'm having problems with something which was never a problem ... changing between sub-domains also needs a change of font size to make the site usable on my 3840x1200 desktop. PLEASE can we have 'theme' as a selection in the same way that 'language' can be changed. This is simply a lot more practical than the attempt to create a 'responsive' style that is a compromise on virtually all desktops :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk