Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70755 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 74983 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2013 18:19:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Dec 2013 18:19:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sean@seancoates.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sean@seancoates.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain seancoates.com from 64.15.79.181 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sean@seancoates.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.15.79.181 iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from [64.15.79.181] ([64.15.79.181:39300] helo=iconoclast.caedmon.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 49/E3-42949-99833B25 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:19:06 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3681784063; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:19:01 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at iconoclast.caedmon.net Received: from iconoclast.caedmon.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (iconoclast.caedmon.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9yoexBrJ8SL5; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:18:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from [10.8.0.2] (sarcasm.vpn [10.8.0.2]) by iconoclast.caedmon.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19E8B78405D; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:18:58 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.6 \(1510\)) In-Reply-To: <52B3362C.80108@ajf.me> Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:18:57 -0500 Cc: PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <52B3362C.80108@ajf.me> To: Tjerk Meesters X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1510) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [vote] pow-operator From: sean@seancoates.com (Sean Coates) Sorry I'm late (possibly too late?) to this, but: 1) if `pow()` is turning from a function into a construct, can it still = be used for callbacks? I don't see a mention of that part in the RFC. 2) if `pow()` drops the overhead of a function call, does `-3 ** 2` = really gain us anything over `pow(-3, 2)`? The latter is /far/ less = ambiguous IMO. S