Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70750 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46486 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2013 12:33:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Dec 2013 12:33:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rdlowrey@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rdlowrey@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rdlowrey@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.172 mail-ie0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.172] ([209.85.223.172:65308] helo=mail-ie0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C7/30-42949-FA7E2B25 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:33:52 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id qd12so1207890ieb.17 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 04:33:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=kmTzmvsxlva3zQsfy1q16UIWGs6uBSqpTwWFXi6pJDE=; b=d7TS5DwwCcJydipJ0X4pqQPl0MM9zQbgDgvzZbL60NhFUfx13klQQ3toCEKuwzXdpT Bv+eDhSd+C+1nTfXJpKh4PrnrGEWgTtVykWFMGkvMTHigre141y+S4zj6BZY6g3MxQW3 bhAX3a8+4acCvqs0YkDBs/HCg4x1XkwPxI9T09/B0sIzj7gILJQoSWtIpoa3vxs5SQwc Mp8vrcB4iKU0kJo4UddLohLdHV1jCmCPaA0Y4ToeTBW2iezCUTP7eudWUqRMHMbRIE3u tZzMJd6L4iaI4qzMDKfcv87hnhvFS/vYi+beHBf9f8vK/umFfHAUEW+BjBgHCCoLmCHk gwsw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.78.229 with SMTP id e5mr1805583igx.49.1387456428997; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 04:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.208.105 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 04:33:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 07:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: To: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013c64a297823104ede25f69 Subject: Re: power operator (again) From: rdlowrey@gmail.com (Daniel Lowrey) --089e013c64a297823104ede25f69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Thanks for all your effort! Unfortunately, since there's no option for > negative numbers to intuitively square to positive outcomes, my vote is > still No. I understand and respect your reasoning even though I do not > agree with it. To me this is not a question of "intuitive" vs. "unintuitive" ... -3^2 = -9 is how the preponderance of credible resources evaluate the expression. As far as I can tell voting "no" on this basis is equivalent to me claiming the earth is flat because it better fits my world-view. - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=-3%5E2 - https://www.google.com/search?q=-3%5E2 - http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/491933/exponent-rules-with-negative-numbers The RFC's implementation is consistent with those found in other languages and is (IMO) sensible as long as you play by the rules. Until someone points out a valid problem other than "I don't like right associativity," I'm inclined to vote yes. --089e013c64a297823104ede25f69--