Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:70289 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69439 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2013 19:40:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Nov 2013 19:40:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 198.187.29.241 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 198.187.29.241 imap3-1.ox.registrar-servers.com Received: from [198.187.29.241] ([198.187.29.241:56589] helo=imap3-1.ox.registrar-servers.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/6D-28674-D23BF825 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:40:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by oxmail.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BBE62A006F; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:40:27 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap3.ox.registrar-servers.com Received: from oxmail.registrar-servers.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap3.ox.registrar-servers.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id iDJO8teU3WD9; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:40:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (unknown [94.13.99.191]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oxmail.registrar-servers.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 265B92A0053; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:40:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <528FB31B.6020409@ajf.me> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 19:40:11 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa" , internals@lists.php.net References: <4E.7B.51208.63ACD825@pb1.pair.com> <528E1AF6.9050201@php.net> <528E4093.5000503@gmail.com> <528F197B.7040802@hoa-project.net> In-Reply-To: <528F197B.7040802@hoa-project.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: phpdbg From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 22/11/13 08:44, Ivan Enderlin @ Hoa wrote: > > And please, with all my respect and without considering xdebug here, > stop using the “de-facto [standard]” expression. A tool is not good > because it is the only one to be in the place :-). > Nothing wrong with saying it's the de facto standard. It is the de facto standard, though that doesn't make it good. Maybe that's what you meant. Anyhow, I'd love for phpdbg to be included in PHP. Along with the CLI server, it'd make PHP a lot more developer-friendly :) -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/