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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:19:33 +0100
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To: Michael Wallner <mike@php.net>
Cc: Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net>, PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: phpdbg
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Michael Wallner <mike@php.net> wrote:
> On 21 November 2013 15:54, Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net> wrote:
>> On 11/21/2013 02:43 PM, Michael Wallner wrote:
>>>
>>> On 21 November 2013 15:38, Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 11/21/2013 02:20 PM, Nikita Popov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> I'm probably missing some context here, maybe you could explain how
>>>>> phpdbg
>>>>> differs from something like xdebug? I mean, xdebug seems to be the
>>>>> de-facto
>>>>> debugging extension for PHP and has been for a long time, but we're not
>>>>> bundling it. Why should we bundle phpdbg instead?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          This is not an extension, it is a SAPI module. The build system
>>>> does
>>>> not support external SAPI modules, the implementation requires Zend API
>>>> which is not exported (or wasn't, has since been patched).
>>>
>>>
>>> That still does not answer the question, though?!
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, it does.
>>
>> xdebug has a reasonable route to deployment already, it, and none of it's
>> users, benefit at all from xdebug being bundled.
>>
>> This is not the same, it can be deployed outside of the source tree but it's
>> much harder, for most people, and for some impossible.
>>
>> I was happy writing code, getting a few functions exported and deploying to
>> those people with the ability to build ...
>>
>> I don't much care for anything but writing the code, and will go back to
>> that now ...
>
> Sorry, I actually only meant the first question: what's the difference
> to xdebug?
> I don't care yet about bundling, I don't event know what it is.

Mabye read http://phpdbg.com/docs/getting-started ? :)

As Joe already said, it is a SAPI, it has a debugging console, etc. It
is something amazingly handy.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

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