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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:15:13 +0100
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To: Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: phpdbg
From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner)

On 21 November 2013 15:54, Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net> wrote:
> On 11/21/2013 02:43 PM, Michael Wallner wrote:
>>
>> On 21 November 2013 15:38, Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 11/21/2013 02:20 PM, Nikita Popov wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> I'm probably missing some context here, maybe you could explain how
>>>> phpdbg
>>>> differs from something like xdebug? I mean, xdebug seems to be the
>>>> de-facto
>>>> debugging extension for PHP and has been for a long time, but we're not
>>>> bundling it. Why should we bundle phpdbg instead?
>>>
>>>
>>>          This is not an extension, it is a SAPI module. The build system
>>> does
>>> not support external SAPI modules, the implementation requires Zend API
>>> which is not exported (or wasn't, has since been patched).
>>
>>
>> That still does not answer the question, though?!
>>
>>
>
> Yes, it does.
>
> xdebug has a reasonable route to deployment already, it, and none of it's
> users, benefit at all from xdebug being bundled.
>
> This is not the same, it can be deployed outside of the source tree but it's
> much harder, for most people, and for some impossible.
>
> I was happy writing code, getting a few functions exported and deploying to
> those people with the ability to build ...
>
> I don't much care for anything but writing the code, and will go back to
> that now ...

Sorry, I actually only meant the first question: what's the difference
to xdebug?
I don't care yet about bundling, I don't event know what it is.

-- 
Regards,
Mike