Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:69904 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64872 invoked from network); 27 Oct 2013 19:15:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Oct 2013 19:15:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.41 mail-wg0-f41.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.41] ([74.125.82.41:42647] helo=mail-wg0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/20-45431-F466D625 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 14:15:28 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id b13so2671702wgh.4 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:15:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FmVL4muqenC2sNOOhsxaBurRPqODGFWTMC64X8gLRQ4=; b=XNhUuRMPh/HwpeFloI7kNOc/lwlr7RTqs3cwYqVN1tsH7iFpZhRPMNNOAsqwHAiJ90 sfdzFDy06LNztlzEEzGMNLwOMcR4+QNDL+NvQZMomY5In0wl8mpr6w+OL3dFRXG9Bm6J duk7NqTEa2YB6d+5Bcw+21nHhRspDtpBl/6HI7/UlCtzVU3GoTuhzFWcA0WwD9ST6+PL CBzOxuuHGI3inT01nB6rlNgz90juaMVPXnYcHylQ4ywILYzebPUC5uRTUIkqtinzpEOA Pf0PGAOAZq/1Loli5qF9FAPumK8eN9+vUp/372nJba8ePySafuJ6BeT7dnTNMZrlKXjL BY4g== X-Received: by 10.180.12.198 with SMTP id a6mr1065322wic.38.1382901323945; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (cpc19-brig17-2-0-cust25.3-3.cable.virginm.net. [81.101.201.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id pi6sm28354666wic.3.2013.10.27.12.15.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:15:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <526D664A.9090200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 19:15:22 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <526D195B.9000204@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Exceptions in the engine From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) On 27/10/2013 15:51, Nikita Popov wrote: > The question is always "how big is the break?" not "is there a > break?". The latter question doesn't even make sense because any > change to PHP - including the most trivial bugfixes - breaks > compatibility to *some* degree (well, unless the change is "fix > whitespace in foo.c") Obligatory XKCD: http://xkcd.com/1172/ A fair point, and trust Randall to be the one to capture its essence. I guess the question then is, if the changes are so minor, are the benefits actually any bigger than the drawbacks? As part of a move towards changing error handling in general, it's a good idea, but that implies it is the first milestone in some larger plan, which doesn't seem to be the case as yet. -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]