Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:69797 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 15039 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2013 04:39:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Oct 2013 04:39:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.172 mail-ve0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.172] ([209.85.128.172:33140] helo=mail-ve0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 24/55-10840-DE257625 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 00:39:09 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id cz12so145378veb.31 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:39:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=DTFLvatty/agr+vlstV6WZl+vPd3IOzV759sOn/+PzE=; b=D2TVaWyc6OhUJZXnBcPwUvSI0X05gFx14KVHPVR9p0Mvvwsg3khMQN2pJu/V8mplDW BxJ8x3pZulGCcP0nYkB9Ui7QrbXTdm51n2l1eoLjU7P9Dc5i57B6JIUqHJD+bENXp3BQ hfzSiRbw6gsNTxqJ2aC/4CUJrZf0pMrDr/AZZzHb9dzGtckhoZ/eACzbRPAX+wQ+4ZUi txhf0sSAdpKViS+qKT/Ilvbm56l7dCWpfGVbAgUTLXK9ARN3z68kyc7Y8YibJJplM7JB XtHRMRZ0OcpcEGWrUCmxiCMAdrNucz5Y8ldzzGb0/ey7ghZbxBw2V/HuiBaGhSUMTFNN zcYw== X-Received: by 10.58.143.17 with SMTP id sa17mr16983131veb.14.1382503146961; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:39:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.248.195 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 21:38:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5267162E.6010705@php.net> References: <5266E17F.40700@sugarcrm.com> <5267162E.6010705@php.net> Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 00:38:45 -0400 Message-ID: To: Clint Priest Cc: Developers Mailing List PHP , Bob Weinand Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d95eef9d1f104e961181c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [Vote] Keywords as identifiers From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("guilhermeblanco@gmail.com") --047d7b6d95eef9d1f104e961181c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 +1 on idea -1 on implementation On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Clint Priest wrote: > I just wanted to +1 for the idea but agree with Stas, Derrick and Zeev on > the implementation, a simpler way needs to be found to solve the problem. > > > On 10/22/2013 3:35 PM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Just to explain why I voted "no". I think the idea is good, but what I >>> see from the patch is that it adds a *lot* of hand written state >>> machines which are going to be a pain to maintain. I do not think this >>> extra maintenance is worth the features - we've done pretty well without >>> it. >>> >> Exactly the same here. I love the idea, but looking at the code I >> realize even with my experience about what's going on in the engine I >> have hard time understanding what's going on there, and we're not >> talking about some obscure nook of the engine - parser is right in the >> middle of everything. So I personally adding so much complexity is not >> worth the cost. If we can find a solution to do the same (or roughly the >> same, sacrificing some less important features) without adding so much >> complexity it'd be much better I think. >> Maybe if you made a good narrative explanation what's going on in that >> code and it turned out it's not as bad as it looks and we just didn't >> realize it, it would be more acceptable. >> > > -- Guilherme Blanco MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com GTalk: guilhermeblanco Toronto - ON/Canada --047d7b6d95eef9d1f104e961181c--