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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Expectations
From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds)


-1 to "expect is a problem". expect is not a problem.
> Le 21 octobre 2013 =C3=A0 10:42, Joe Watkins <krakjoe@php.net> a =C3=A9cr=
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> On 10/21/2013 09:57 AM, Tjerk Meesters wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Michael Wallner <mike@php.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 21 October 2013 10:13, Patrick Schaaf <bof@bof.de> wrote:
> >>> Am 21.10.2013 03:52 schrieb "Joe Watkins" <krakjoe@php.net>:
> >>>>
> >>>> So looks like we need a new name ?? Ideas ??
> >>>
> >>> abstract EXPRESSION
> >>
> >> wat?
> >>
> >>
> >>> abstract is already a keyword, so no BC.
> >>>
> >>> abstract is not concrete so alludes a bit to the
> >>> might-be-or-might-not-be-checked nature of the test
> >>>
> >>> abstract is the name for the "short summary" intro part of scientific
> >>> papers, and these conditions are kind of a summary of what is known
> >>> (preconditions) and concluded (postconditions).
> >>
> >> Ah, ok well. I'd rather go for expected() or except() then...
> >>
> >
> > Since we're throwing around terms, here's another one:
> >
> > predicate <expr>;
> >
> > It should be understood by most programmers what it means (though,
> > admittedly, it doesn't carry an obvious severity) and isn't used anywhe=
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> > in the language (afaik).
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards,
> >> Mike
> >>
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> >
> >
> I suggest we process thusly:
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> =09We need some consensus as to whether this is actually a problem or not
> before we get lost in suggestions ...
> =09Should we decide it's a problem then we need to decide if using the
> keyword "expected" solves the problem ...
> =09Should there still be a problem we should compile a short list and get
> a consensus on it before proceeding to make necessary changes.
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> So first of all, can we get a quick +|-1 on:
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> =09Using "expect" is a problem
> =09Using "expected" solves the problem
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> We can proceed from there I think ...
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> Cheers
> Joe
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