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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Expectations
From: derick@php.net (Derick Rethans)

On Fri, 18 Oct 2013, Joe Watkins wrote:

> Evening Chaps,
> 
> 	Following on from discussion regarding assertion API in PHP, the
> following RFC is now up for discussion:
> 
> 	https://wiki.php.net/rfc/expectations
> 
> 	Please do point out any missing sections or information, so that it
> can be clarified as quickly as possible.
> 	
> 	I hope this conveys the idea a bit clearer to everyone ?

This is again an RFC that does not even attempt to argue for its 
usefulness. "This functionality was meant to replace the assert() API 
that currently exists in PHP, because of problems replacing it in a 
compatible manner". This doesn't say what is wrong with assert() or 
whether we *need* expect.

Besides that, why support execptions here. asserts are for testing 
things in development in order not to cock things up. Using exceptions 
for this makes very little sense. All of your examples even promote to 
handle exceptions and continue with excecution. If you want that, just 
use normal if()s with exceptions. I don't see the point of yet another 
syntax extension to do things you can already do just fine.

cheers,
Derick