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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Assertions
From: php@bof.de (Patrick Schaaf)

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> However, I still continue to think that assertions should stay 
assertions,
> aka : run time fatal errors when enabled.

Yes! And Coredump! And a debugger that lets me load that later + 
examine stack and all other state!

BTW, http://www.php.net/manual/de/debugger-about.php link to DBG 
leads to a nonexisting page http://www.php-debugger.com/dbg/

best regards
  Patrick


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