Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:69137 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18153 invoked from network); 16 Sep 2013 08:35:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Sep 2013 08:35:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.177 mail-ob0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.177] ([209.85.214.177:38206] helo=mail-ob0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EC/51-10557-AB2C6325 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 04:35:06 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wp18so3423410obc.22 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 01:35:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3pDUWdZ8QuXjEQHhU1UCdHsxB+6GCCRxAhIypyD/j1Y=; b=l5KH86DC+w9OHCqKgICishX8V8EpWjiUXgXJ1QEgwf3HaGrHIuppUCa1XpfUNklFd/ lb1vuGTED4b3AW7Wze2HGgfrxj3pyjxDSXOHq8PGg3Lf5Kd3eI+hsQ/I7nP/7amGtK2J qOJZvcaMOzVSTJh7iBgpORpYDga4y48VViX4IBjjDxp/5OQPeiA+uogkLWifVvnDCram 3l01MZNS17cmG0NyB9cerkM5ptjsAWyu68X2Hur/rX0WdMPHdS6cy7Gda6coG6EJr6ke eL6N7YFSUCuZt+cDViTQVV2qZHW5xnLYaBF7OAc/aTpM7dMNPr9oXmnID3VTMzXLPQ2M BIGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.117.195 with SMTP id kg3mr725836obb.17.1379320503395; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 01:35:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.221.170 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 01:35:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 01:35:03 -0700 Message-ID: To: Michael Wallner Cc: David Soria Parra , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149c506a2ec8404e67c1457 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Call for participation: github pull request From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --089e0149c506a2ec8404e67c1457 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > How to actually get karma to manage those pull request in github? > > I know what you mean. I've been sitting on a patch I did for an RFC for awhile now because I don't have karma to post it. I know I could just add to the pull request queue but I'd much rather put a few more together first so I can convince the powers that be to grant me the karma so I can push them myself. Unfortunately, there are no clearly established standards for this that I'm aware of at least, so it's kinda hard to set a concrete goal there. So for me at least, it winds-up getting nudged more to the backburner for me. It's hard to get motivated when all you can do is fling your hard work into the ether and wait for someone else to maybe eventually pull it in. PHP is meant to be a meritocracy and I think that's the right way to go. That said, if the backlog is this big, perhaps we should consider putting together a more explicit policy outlining the requirements for having various levels of karma granted. The ad hoc "judgement call" approach works up to a point, but when a certain critical mass is reached, it becomes less and less adequate IMNSHO. --Kris --089e0149c506a2ec8404e67c1457--