Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:69069 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67925 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2013 21:24:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Sep 2013 21:24:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:56525] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 00/70-00307-78FD0325 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 17:24:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.20] (ppp-88-217-94-216.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.94.216]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A061F5BEAD; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:24:26 +0200 (CEST) To: Madara Uchiha Cc: PHP Internals In-Reply-To: References: <1378903588.3917.54.camel@guybrush> <5230B28A.40707@oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:23:49 +0200 Message-ID: <1378934629.12435.171.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Wake up From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 21:27 +0200, Madara Uchiha wrote: > As long as the community remains hostile to newcomers, moderation > would be hostile as well. Sorry, I don't believe in this "hostile" argument. Yes people have strong opinions and aren't not necessarily diplomatic while stating them (for all different reasons like Ego, care for the product, language barriers, cultural background, pure opinion, ...) but still we gave out 35 new git accounts (not only php-src) within the first 9 months of this year. Internals can be loud and harsh, as it is about the core which is important for many, but look to the side, like pecl-dev list or #php.pecl they are mostly helpful towards people who try to learn about php-src. (at least I hope so, while trying to answer as many beginner questions as I can in my available time) johannes