Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68892 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71746 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2013 08:24:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Sep 2013 08:24:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=krebs.seb@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=krebs.seb@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: krebs.seb@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.172 mail-wi0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.172] ([209.85.212.172:36242] helo=mail-wi0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3D/B9-01925-7BF38225 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 04:24:24 -0400 Received: by mail-wi0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c10so5931476wiw.11 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 01:24:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=XCAm12vs6gEnHtXnprx0SqR7u7aWzPWWsBxYXSfI1B4=; b=kXMkM5x3/+SzSnbhH+O0dzCuCfZoOLEtaeiI1j6UFNmAv2GfVSum2BWuYuqSzmsuaM 0PTWm483ClGKr1hEM97VTcs78cVxnP7ZkrSumNPPBN93L/CbI3aht6q6ys8Rgh+vVhkF HSGpw+7ZhLzevAIMJDH5STk1xZ6XVl8f0ea1hAbKXNB6xvB1Ak6AYGV4OtLaLA6iMOms loCkqcjmMy1wpKiVuIIOJWrtox3etgncX3p1NRMPDyQAJ+aHILZhAIXfh+GZtpJsQkqw FiUoTZruCKEuEwm28kXlPoFl125qVU4ogjosicDGDf0JQ0h0DW2kPzR9EFYpMpJIN9Hf 4PEQ== X-Received: by 10.180.108.2 with SMTP id hg2mr5358230wib.7.1378369460679; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 01:24:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.5.9 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 01:23:40 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5220D212.3010101@sugarcrm.com> <61FCD6C4A31248078FEAD2BA73D7CD44@gmail.com> <7AF31CC1D1554454AC95AE758D23E92E@gmail.com> <52243F6C.7070806@sugarcrm.com> <5224EEEF.3070204@sugarcrm.com> <52250E8F.5010805@sugarcrm.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 10:23:40 +0200 Message-ID: To: Levi Morrison Cc: Pierre Joye , Stas Malyshev , Anthony Ferrara , Nicolas Grekas , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3bb04d12bc0404e59ea6ea Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Function autoloading From: krebs.seb@gmail.com (Sebastian Krebs) --e89a8f3bb04d12bc0404e59ea6ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 2013/9/3 Levi Morrison > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Levi Morrison > > wrote: > > >> In which case we have very different ideas about what good design > > >> is and would never come to any agreement on that. > > > > > > > > > This is already evident in ALL of your recent "discussions" on this ML. > > Go > > > and look: you are the most active participant in each topic and you are > > > bickering in each one. Could you please stop dominating every > discussion? > > > > I'd to say it is more an attempt to understand the needs of one > > feature or another. This is why this ML exists, to discuss (which may > > move to arguing sometimes, so it goes). But I won't ever ask someone > > to stop participating to discussions, unless it goes off topic or the > > tone is not appropriate (had one recently where my tone was not the > > best, I stopped :). > > > > I didn't ask him to stop participating: I asked him to stop dominating > every discussion. There is a significant difference. > I must say, that I share this opinion. I follow this list quite a while now and it is not the first time, that the discussion about a quite promising proposal were "dominated" until one after the other leaves the discussion -- annoyed and demotivated. > > > > That being said, there is always a point in a RFC discussion where > > there is nothing left to discuss or argue about, we are so far with > > this one. > > > We've been at this point for a while; no new arguments have been raised > despite several people asking to bring it back in focus. > -- github.com/KingCrunch --e89a8f3bb04d12bc0404e59ea6ea--