Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68812 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49105 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2013 09:24:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 2013 09:24:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ml@anderiasch.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ml@anderiasch.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain anderiasch.de from 81.169.138.148 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ml@anderiasch.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 81.169.138.148 ares.art-core.org Received: from [81.169.138.148] ([81.169.138.148:34128] helo=mail.anderiasch.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 78/DF-55332-4B703225 for ; Sun, 01 Sep 2013 05:24:05 -0400 Message-ID: <522307B0.5020103@anderiasch.de> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:24:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , PHP internals list References: <1377979523.3656.21.camel@guybrush> <1377995105.3656.50.camel@guybrush> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] windows.php.net From: ml@anderiasch.de (Florian Anderiasch) On 01.09.2013 03:01, Pierre Joye wrote: >> Also I don't consider the separation userfriendly. A user comes to >> php.net and tries to fetch downloads ... that might be streamlined quite >> a bit when properly grouped together. > > Many can, could, should or would. Complaining and doing almost nothing > however do not help anyone. It felt a lot less like complaining than inquiring. Big surprise, Johannes isn't the only one wondering about a lot of that stuff that he asked. You can argue about whether you felt unfairly attacked or not, but to stay on the topic I'd bet not a lot of people reading this list (apart from the ones on the w.p.n page) really have any meaningful insight there. Just look at the list for enquiries about windows builds and you earn mostly blank stares from the rest of the team until one of you guys answers. Greetings, Florian