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Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:38:01 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] windows.php.net
From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=)

On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 13:22 -0700, Kris Craig wrote:
> The downloads section of windows.php.net is regularly updated.  It
> currently hosts 5.3.3, released 10 days ago.  The snaps and news are a bit
> outdated, but I'd say the solution to that is to encourage more
> participation, not shut it down completely.

Participation has been request b different people in different times,
the git repo on git.php.net also has a few (very minor) commits for some
time which have not been deployed.

> I'm not sure which team members you're referring to, but I know that three
> of them work at Microsoft in Redmond and are very involved in helping to
> maintain the Windows build of PHP.  I know them all personally; 

It's nice you now all of them. Does that make them a member of our
community? But as said: Even if they are active and do important things.
why is there a need for a special site? why can't they be praised along
side everybody else?

> Matt Ficken
> was actually my replacement when my contract expired and I decided not to
> renew.  If those are the three you were referring to, I can tell you they
> work very hard and are actively working with Pierre; at least, they were
> the last I heard.

I have regular discussions with Matt and also assigned him multiple
bugs.

> I think it makes sense for Windows to have its own subdomain site because
> there are a number of differences between it and a standard Linux build.  I
> do agree that the news and snaps sections should be updated more regularly
> (this has been a problem there for years), and maybe the best way to do
> that would be to give more people access.  That said, I think removing it
> would be a bit drastic.

What are the relevant differences warranting a different site? Sure a
long downloads list with all downloads for all active versions is
unusable, that's why I suggested a general improvement on the downloads
page. Yes, we have some #ifdefs in the code and provide binaries but
what's the relevant difference for users (except more clicks and having
to fetch the downloads from a different continent which can be annoying
for some regions)
I seriously don't see this and am happy about enlightenment.

johannes