Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68785 php.webmaster:16566 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87343 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2013 20:24:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Aug 2013 20:24:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.180 mail-lb0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.180] ([209.85.217.180:45123] helo=mail-lb0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 21/B4-55332-BF052225 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:24:28 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q8so2813452lbi.39 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:24:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4CvZ7II9wjkMabvKol7l3kFj7UTZvWPv5Dc4arojwUY=; b=m0fO/PaDovBy5A860/omvqdmQ3HPB77sSVgpwTAOkGm/QdtDkvU+pxlpkmHm+rgo9u XcdHXsvf94XUIgqlzsOle2a25yiTv/AO05gFoOIrD/xrkc7m2cPtKJLk41FGrgGi5A/6 6prv0Mxvq3lev1IqucAktKpU+njcXBu6L8hmv6jEUj9TyBabiQztK2JhTfqa6rXbkr6c iEPW5IkcJqNctxM1OKud75btGHaqAQiH4gku+k77Wqvex/QkIrougJP/dK3R2ZfFPibI jQACYapcb6DgnJvjuqsZr9iFiZn0/zJWccSZzXDVSnz7evXbcR8fd2gA3Tq+LecMLYlG 9vgw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.168.170 with SMTP id zx10mr13429050lbb.0.1377980664822; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.59.173 with HTTP; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:24:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1377979523.3656.21.camel@guybrush> References: <1377979523.3656.21.camel@guybrush> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 13:24:24 -0700 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= Cc: PHP internals list , PHP Webmaster ML Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c23c8808c2a704e54420f0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] windows.php.net From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com (Hannes Magnusson) --001a11c23c8808c2a704e54420f0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter wrote: > Hi, > > there has been some chatter about windows.php.net, which drives me to > the question: Do we need that site? Why and for what? > > Few data items: > * The "news" on w.p.n are not really maintained and provide > outdated info. > * Downloads are not using our 90 world-wide mirrors but a single > site giving worse connection quality than needed > * Snapshots on that site are outdated since more than a year (one > can find newer ones when looking at a small note) > * Team lists three people I don't know (might be my fault) who > probably aren't part of the php.net community (what ever that > is) and in general I don't understand the need for extra > credits. > * The site can only be updated by a small group of people > different requests to broaden this (i.e. by updating from git > like other php.net sites) have been rejected (or at least > ignored, i.e. bug #64277) > > My idea would be to > * shut down most of windows.php.net > * Provide downloads via our mirrors. This might need work on a > nice downloads page, probably some configuration to make sure we > comply to US crypto export stuff (i.e. no U.S. servers for d/l) > and probably a different approach to provision the distributions > directory (git is not thaaat usable with these tons of "large" > binary files) > * either integrate snaps with snaps.php.net or create a limited > w.p.n site doing only that and.. > * handle QA releases similar to snaps, if distributed from w.p.n > provide direct links from qa.php.net > * integrate team listing with credits, where needed > > > +1 The only addition I have to this is: The site is tricky to navigate and we constantly get questions about where what is - which I don't even know so have to send the requests elsewhere. -Hannes --001a11c23c8808c2a704e54420f0--