Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68783 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84327 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2013 20:05:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Aug 2013 20:05:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.215.10 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.215.10 mail.experimentalworks.net Received: from [217.114.215.10] ([217.114.215.10:41710] helo=mail.experimentalworks.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 32/04-55332-19C42225 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 16:05:37 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.20] (ppp-93-104-21-43.dynamic.mnet-online.de [93.104.21.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: johannes@schlueters.de) by mail.experimentalworks.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58CF4434D0 for ; Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:05:35 +0200 (CEST) To: PHP internals list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 22:05:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1377979523.3656.21.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: windows.php.net From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) Hi, there has been some chatter about windows.php.net, which drives me to the question: Do we need that site? Why and for what? Few data items: * The "news" on w.p.n are not really maintained and provide outdated info. * Downloads are not using our 90 world-wide mirrors but a single site giving worse connection quality than needed * Snapshots on that site are outdated since more than a year (one can find newer ones when looking at a small note) * Team lists three people I don't know (might be my fault) who probably aren't part of the php.net community (what ever that is) and in general I don't understand the need for extra credits. * The site can only be updated by a small group of people different requests to broaden this (i.e. by updating from git like other php.net sites) have been rejected (or at least ignored, i.e. bug #64277) My idea would be to * shut down most of windows.php.net * Provide downloads via our mirrors. This might need work on a nice downloads page, probably some configuration to make sure we comply to US crypto export stuff (i.e. no U.S. servers for d/l) and probably a different approach to provision the distributions directory (git is not thaaat usable with these tons of "large" binary files) * either integrate snaps with snaps.php.net or create a limited w.p.n site doing only that and.. * handle QA releases similar to snaps, if distributed from w.p.n provide direct links from qa.php.net * integrate team listing with credits, where needed johannes