Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:6875 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94502 invoked by uid 1010); 8 Jan 2004 19:07:01 -0000 Delivered-To: ezmlm-scan-internals@lists.php.net Delivered-To: ezmlm-internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94447 invoked from network); 8 Jan 2004 19:07:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp1.ActiveState.com) (209.17.183.249) by pb1.pair.com with SMTP; 8 Jan 2004 19:07:00 -0000 Received: from smtp3.ActiveState.com (latte.activestate.com [192.168.4.252]) by smtp1.ActiveState.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i08J6U3W010211; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:06:30 -0800 (envelope-from shane@caraveo.com) Received: from caraveo.com (HydraIRC@leverage.ActiveState.com [192.168.3.203]) by smtp3.ActiveState.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id i08J6TgS030794; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 11:06:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3FFDAA35.5020704@caraveo.com> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 11:06:29 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7a) Gecko/20040107 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wez Furlong CC: PHP Internals List References: <20040108183103.GA21154@panix.com> <00c101c3d619$0ecb3230$8b018552@titan> In-Reply-To: <00c101c3d619$0ecb3230$8b018552@titan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] new win32 snapshot: changing .exe names From: shane@caraveo.com (Shane Caraveo) While I dont care if the name changes for php5, I dont buy the premise that more and more people will be using php outside the web. I think cli has it's uses, but I think it will be a marginal group of people who make large use of it. Shane Wez Furlong wrote: > If you need to configure php5 separately from php4, you're going to be > editing your server config anyway, so (IMO at least) this is not an issue. > > The CLI version should remain php.exe (this has been discussed before). > > Consider the CGI name change a progressive one that will help avoid > confusion with CLI and CGI (which were *both* named php.exe). Now that > PHP is expanding outside of the role of a webserver only language, > more and more people will be using the CLI version of PHP especially > now that win32 PHP is much more attractive for admin tasks (COM!) > than it has been in previous releases. > > The old style dir structure meant that you had to rename the CGI and > then move the CLI out of a sub-directory in order to be able to use > both CLI and CGI on the same box; clearly this is much more hassle > to do for every snap than to change your server config only once :-) > > --Wez. > > >>Both the CGI and CLI exe's are now in the base directory. CLI is called >>"php.exe" and the CGI is called "php-cgi.exe." Please consider reversing >>the names. Making the CLI "php-cli.exe" and the CGI "php.exe" will make >>installation less of a hastle. >> >>Users and their computers expect the php.exe to be the CGI and are using >>it to serve web pages. While having each user individually change their >>files isn't insurmountable, it's an unnecessary step for many thousands > > of > >>people. And for some people, it's a step they'd need to repeat over and >>over as they unzip new snapshots. >> >>By the way, thanks for renaming the dll. I'm looking forward to running > > 4 > >>and 5 concurrently as CGI's on my windows development system. > >