Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68385 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24092 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2013 16:05:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Aug 2013 16:05:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arraypad@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arraypad@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arraypad@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.182 mail-lb0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.182] ([209.85.217.182:35274] helo=mail-lb0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C2/73-06453-92DCFF15 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:05:02 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id v20so2189958lbc.41 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Ghx7afKH6JJfP5GuSGXwQHzQYAfb3Gau2kRcVsMFFG8=; b=ZEw4ssDmw5aGp/b6cc2g+/6r8uw+kdjKwbKfR9AyBgERVGsYg8sfddyrJSRn3Opq/N OFiB/6VCzGFxH6N1mZHBS7hfy0zpXVcvYEYuZ5pqP9WOyZ649z22xxXJoUmt83xtpojc ISb4nuhB2FReI8SNDXcWclGWLcimW3/3TRm+3rCNYZEEjugdHWz85PzInZhsa8pwFhHf mUq1athCNcUk7C5YGR9RzoFHM6qthCm5ewa2shvsRSKs/pf3CsMzJZHH4IgwpKa47hms X/K9OUi+hFsne6vGzJQBZ7jFv6W22X2nuon+XXwU0nr7U9SkihqZtmmYemVeplzRp7/s sVkQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.22.65 with SMTP id b1mr8914740laf.46.1375718693653; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.132.201 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:04:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <50364644.1060302@lerdorf.com> <5039D249.30707@sugarcrm.com> <503A968A.4070206@sugarcrm.com> <51FEEEAF.1070705@sugarcrm.com> <51FEF5AA.5060409@sugarcrm.com> Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 17:04:53 +0100 Message-ID: To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: Stas Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0158b92a0bd2a904e335788c Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Session Id Collisions From: arraypad@gmail.com (Arpad Ray) --089e0158b92a0bd2a904e335788c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Yasuo, On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Arpad Ray wrote: > >> Could you point me to where this was decided please? I don't see a vote >> or anything like a consensus in the previous threads. > > > There isn't vote for this RFC since this is security. > It's also a consensus. > While this is a security concern, it's not a straightforward bug fix. When there's contention in how to fix it, I think there really should be a vote. I've read the other threads and I don't think has been any clear consensus about this issue and I, for one, am not happy to have what I feel is an inferior solution committed while it's still being discussed. To reiterate: this ini setting will quietly fail when using a handler which hasn't been patched, like memcached, or a custom handler. That's arguably worse than not having the setting at all since it could give people a false sense of security. Arpad --089e0158b92a0bd2a904e335788c--