Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68218 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63009 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2013 19:42:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jul 2013 19:42:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php_m@rtin.so; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php_m@rtin.so; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain rtin.so from 209.85.192.171 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php_m@rtin.so X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.171 mail-pd0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.171] ([209.85.192.171:34000] helo=mail-pd0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B0/90-13120-99699E15 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:42:18 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y14so4602451pdi.16 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to:x-mailer:x-gm-message-state; bh=CU4iX2xf1rTXUUN1+jmOEF2spi4aD+X6+Y93hJPxm60=; b=TRdrPQ/ywY4Elp4V1EV6uf0tqEEe7Zp5Vh8U9WPbDfq1Kk/ZgZR9CNCFgHxjz9buTx wuhCjm+JmDN7iFMuMLyO9X7CCHNrW4hcNY8LY+Mep3Lzu0+/wLzIA1R+7C1YTGjKsN/H MLB6bT8so8es0Ri7rKBCqjyJqUHKPqs5D5CEz9nF99CRRSGyGo2SwMiX31xRutFrriCg itK69+6BgQhHSo9JI4VdEHIaIqtG7YzOmggc6W7Zxauunlt+4NMNe+Q9rWBxPi8UVBoY prfYkOdyZk6ehL1Zx4Das3J4bLrnXUk/OyMFJCTPktwngBt3xXp6qvPV2iOHIIH3QJMX BGxw== X-Received: by 10.68.255.1 with SMTP id am1mr18715433pbd.68.1374262935188; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.46] (64-71-16-94.static.wiline.com. [64.71.16.94]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ss8sm4892561pab.6.2013.07.19.12.42.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DAF6A7CD-CF2F-4FE2-8222-1DA33F8DAC82" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.0 \(1784.1\)) In-Reply-To: <51E8876C.6050301@sugarcrm.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 12:44:28 -0700 Cc: PHP Internals Message-ID: References: <091988B7-57E1-42E8-8DEF-D1657565B956@rtin.so> <51E8876C.6050301@sugarcrm.com> To: Stas Malyshev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1784.1) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnQ9vCT44beCuwlrt+dDfdiJKxPlzUwrRUGO2akRuk8TioxnCNd/em99sNbTpAFM0JQ+6UT Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Compatibility changes for 5.5 From: php_m@rtin.so (Martin Amps) --Apple-Mail=_DAF6A7CD-CF2F-4FE2-8222-1DA33F8DAC82 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Understood. But given for the entire 5 series it was valid I feel people = finding their code randomly breaking now would expect to see it in the = documentation somewhere. Where would you suggest we place it? Given it=92s a bug fix, would it still fit here? = http://www.php.net/manual/en/migration55.incompatible.php=20 On Jul 18, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Stas Malyshev = wrote: > Hi! >=20 >> Much the same as https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=3D49348 since 5.5 >> trying to access an uninitialized property of an object throws a >> notice but isn=92t listed anywhere as a change that I can see. >=20 > Read access to uninitialized variable should produce notice, that's = how > it was in PHP for very long time. Unfortunately, due to the bug it > didn't in some situations, while it still did in others. In 5.5, this > bug was fixed. Generally, bugfixes do not have special reporting = except > for note in the NEWS that the bug has been fixed. But if you think it > needs special mention you can suggest a patch. > --=20 > Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect > SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ > (408)454-6900 ext. 227 --Apple-Mail=_DAF6A7CD-CF2F-4FE2-8222-1DA33F8DAC82--