Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68104 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62206 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2013 20:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2013 20:52:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.220.50 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.50 mail-pa0-f50.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.50] ([209.85.220.50:53858] helo=mail-pa0-f50.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 15/57-03322-21B1FD15 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:52:35 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id fb1so8167424pad.23 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=hTqGqlpHTfCU3YtGurfB1Wwl+pV030Z3m1b9nz60PyE=; b=QcGm8YswBvBuUA5V6osmmpNxpIya3Ms155nkKZPY6dtkmCtOkj5lmGSbZNmj4m3bTh L+XGHv8HvDNAP3WG6rloYXd6mBPsdFx33jG8ROYHPWQhv1C8okaUC5QcaLVeeiFnltX4 qwPWGikGHhIphf2FpWckCpuq34StMXTkVJMYU3jA32vtzvNziBYx0OdTIZxAlTGKkDAR c3xD7tCbvZPCsDmBwSvJDvtxzEQ5QR5S04TPWCvB234OX0Q1sAx4YtkQYEN9T5bbVujN P43Cf/ppHGj0OmCPc9J/MwS/WrW+gcmvZFGGRDuhJo2SBuJObHFMjBUW1vj3fA06JHxD uvCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.203.105 with SMTP id kp9mr19687094pbc.78.1373575951848; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.70.132.105 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2620:0:1cfe:18:22c9:d0ff:fe87:295b] In-Reply-To: References: <1372258135.2410.22.camel@guybrush> <51DF0CDD.7060108@sugarcrm.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:52:31 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vjtUgTAFrJLek05huUDkHb891II Message-ID: To: Nikita Popov Cc: Stas Malyshev , Florin Patan , "RQuadling@gmail.com" , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15aec7aea63504e1429234 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnY/F3eSOfrjeeFiMvPPOLDKw5d8GZN2/eO6KgDzepmDpRDVrC+AJblC6XBxshASPlNT4OY Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for comments - new PHP feature: return typing From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) --047d7b15aec7aea63504e1429234 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I agree 100%. This particular item has been in the works since before I joined the team and I've given them a bollocking out over it. You may have noticed UConverter and a few other changes which WERE proposed to internals@ prior to inclusion in HHVM and the implementation of those features were changed based on the feedback received from this group. I'm on PHP's side, guys. On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Nikita Popov wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > >> I won't suggest that PHP should follow HHVM, if anything I'll usually (and >> have frequently) rallied for the other way around. In this case, however, >> as with Generators, I think that we should endeavor to keep the >> implementations close together by the most appropriate means. I don't >> want >> two versions of PHP syntax. >> > > It would be nice if the HHVM devs could send a mail over to internals when > you're including new syntax, so we are a) aware of the fact that you're > adding it and might consider adding it too and b) have a chance to provide > some input on the feature (in particular also in order to bring it into a > form that PHP would be willing to include). > > I understand that discussing some new feature on internals most likely > needs five times more time than actually implementing it in HHVM, but I > think that it would benefit everyone if there was some communication > between the projects :) > > Nikita > --047d7b15aec7aea63504e1429234--