Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68101 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57162 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2013 20:40:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2013 20:40:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.192.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.171 mail-pd0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.171] ([209.85.192.171:57669] helo=mail-pd0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CF/36-03322-F481FD15 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:40:48 -0400 Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y14so7822032pdi.30 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=4RiIp98AJEAi4LwA837N+3TLNSyFBYyc608mInlNAuA=; b=b/cAlzfc9jYQkdr93rpY61TthSZoxVOZGEpUuGDvUzZff6+LyCNfdVZ1HxJex2AkQ7 nr5wvd2hgEFuE6pd/2AvFQ69qcPvTeodap0u76hwFxSEna4W96/LWdc7r/XW10keV7Fn HSiPjT1vF38qk82HM5WEwZ2FleF6Sf0xHXU1u8b4i7n9QPAqczcgq5Gu6KxI7cUwg07Q Sa2diA2CV32mcErIZ1jlpQhVdx1DlXyc5uycmFWzcK/NWnwNC56QQoWhGP+bZbZAs8wt 0vHBvu9rg7h+cfbKFbr4WZhrXx3pjbCxNocs87GbbkNSZB5dz0BWqiVYqcVi49aBv9Ir cKEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.191.5 with SMTP id gu5mr38638788pbc.191.1373575245259; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.70.132.105 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2620:0:1cfe:18:22c9:d0ff:fe87:295b] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:40:45 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9ADYlIB4QEhPv7fpcS6TvGIcAfs Message-ID: To: Florin Patan Cc: Patrick ALLAERT , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Ferenc Kovacs , Julien Pauli , Maxwell , Sherif Ramadan , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1c8ae90f44404e14268a7 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkO9S7vsBjjQImprszP2U+VpoFh/WGSMQLm6MvMR1Bq5yBb7tm+TaWgrmtTmpM2O/Z3AIRt Subject: Re: Integrate HHVM into PHP (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for comments - new PHP feature: return typing) From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) --e89a8ff1c8ae90f44404e14268a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you run into issues (yes, our build system still sucks a bit) poke me in IRC freenode/#hhvm (or ptarjan or any other @ in that channel). And just to jump in front of what I detect in your comment "albiet compile it". Repeat: HHVM is not a code translator anymore. Hasn't been for awhile now. The basic functionality of HHVM is just like PHP. Put a .php file in your webroot, browse it, profit. -Sara On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Florin Patan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Patrick ALLAERT > wrote: > > Hello Florin, > > > > 2013/7/10 Florin Patan : > >> Since you brought up the discussion, would you think it would make > >> more sense to actually start and integrate HHVM into PHP rather that > >> patching it up? > >> Or better yet, rewrite it with a HH VM in mind? > >> I know and fully understand it's a gigantic task but at some point in > >> a software lifecycle there's only so much patching up you can do > >> before you can't patch it anymore. > >> Thanks. > > > > Not that this is not interesting, but this is deviating the discussion > > so much than the original thread that it is worth having it as it's > > own thread. > > Please, remember to change the subject if you start an off-topic > > discussion, it makes discussions easier to follow. > > > > Thanks, > > Patrick > > Hi, > > > Thank you for moving this into a separate thread. > > I'll look into HHVM in the following days/weeks but I think it's clear > that HHVM brings some nice concepts both to the language and to the > way PHP works, albeit compile it and so on. > Also reading articles like this: > > http://ocramius.github.io/blog/accessing-private-php-class-members-without-reflection/ > makes me very sad that this code is possible in PHP in order to > overcome speed issues of the language. > Could this be a topic of interest for more people, especially the core > people? > > > Best regards, > Florin > ---- > Florin Patan > https://github.com/dlsniper > http://www.linkedin.com/in/florinpatan > --e89a8ff1c8ae90f44404e14268a7--