Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:68095 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46029 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2013 19:46:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 11 Jul 2013 19:46:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=florinpatan@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=florinpatan@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: florinpatan@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.172 mail-ob0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.172] ([209.85.214.172:59360] helo=mail-ob0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 42/14-03322-97B0FD15 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 15:46:01 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id wo10so10539260obc.3 for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=8IZYiuGt+eH47hziHgDbSWOHQ620opTHHDk6G0OS86o=; b=UbiSH1ypErispQRdBo0FAbXm68rDL+j+svsZLTUaAfUnGKA4N2fa4mjEZJsl4BxBTv mSLOWPOZ03kuYNTfTn9rQ5qI0LuWULeDZP0SHkmGxndk9MT8WzdVhDFvLumO1946+e3N qzJjxCO4IaG9ZFQwnPqidgy3peqWrUwE8kYPe5pCnzI090EtNwye0badRzhSe5g5HJy7 1lY+Q8375CgGjunSmJFWAOj+B7lEicDHoI8tTSJBO1T+zx3n32XSVuQbZyAOst8nP4oK 5PrFfn4DCHjeMrQa5EdkVRICEv6Ij6MLurC/YgfJPbXBiVsCtTCBm6d/+Y5ptyiau8YZ N0SA== X-Received: by 10.182.32.4 with SMTP id e4mr33417930obi.16.1373571958814; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:45:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.76.18.161 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:45:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 21:45:27 +0200 Message-ID: To: Patrick ALLAERT Cc: Sara Golemon , =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= , Ferenc Kovacs , Julien Pauli , Maxwell , Sherif Ramadan , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: Integrate HHVM into PHP (Was: Re: [PHP-DEV] Request for comments - new PHP feature: return typing) From: florinpatan@gmail.com (Florin Patan) On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Patrick ALLAERT wrote: > Hello Florin, > > 2013/7/10 Florin Patan : >> Since you brought up the discussion, would you think it would make >> more sense to actually start and integrate HHVM into PHP rather that >> patching it up? >> Or better yet, rewrite it with a HH VM in mind? >> I know and fully understand it's a gigantic task but at some point in >> a software lifecycle there's only so much patching up you can do >> before you can't patch it anymore. >> Thanks. > > Not that this is not interesting, but this is deviating the discussion > so much than the original thread that it is worth having it as it's > own thread. > Please, remember to change the subject if you start an off-topic > discussion, it makes discussions easier to follow. > > Thanks, > Patrick Hi, Thank you for moving this into a separate thread. I'll look into HHVM in the following days/weeks but I think it's clear that HHVM brings some nice concepts both to the language and to the way PHP works, albeit compile it and so on. Also reading articles like this: http://ocramius.github.io/blog/accessing-private-php-class-members-without-reflection/ makes me very sad that this code is possible in PHP in order to overcome speed issues of the language. Could this be a topic of interest for more people, especially the core people? Best regards, Florin ---- Florin Patan https://github.com/dlsniper http://www.linkedin.com/in/florinpatan