Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:67549 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14331 invoked from network); 27 May 2013 08:01:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 May 2013 08:01:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.219.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.52 mail-oa0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.52] ([209.85.219.52:39043] helo=mail-oa0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0A/DF-32733-CC213A15 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 04:01:21 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id h1so8276773oag.25 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 01:01:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hZBgYrz3u6P+ByqtR5sM1jjAni0nDxOrW2ym877RzyE=; b=gYf+ibPbQ4P68ncDPzLpfyqBIJ4ov6Rhyvxx2m6xwdH+q02Hp6PwJCR+nTZXZrDEn7 //pqAoAOt7fKiH3AE6/ZwX4uQGtHqtrfv24SALzftnYcLbap5DuHVERBqlB1GBZQNCL6 xpbVUAQwP136ZwfyCVe9/MYaOzWesjqL2GGvhOVt1uI3m06ICa9lv3wcIvQaW8n/3TY9 6Elaz41GCOMM4U6Bdb5diK6PzG2hWi3bzbIp6RWKwmhpJsOm12zyqfHmhr0qBze8MooC Q+Y72e8tjdGnoMBtdYui+WdQtXWx6OljjchyUeXDXIdGVnW954BJDAq5eIL6ulHCmA3B 489A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.103.76 with SMTP id fu12mr18112780oeb.71.1369641674142; Mon, 27 May 2013 01:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.165.132 with HTTP; Mon, 27 May 2013 01:01:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51A092FC.4010700@wikimedia.org> <51A1AF3E.5000704@sugarcrm.com> <51A2D395.5030302@sugarcrm.com> <1022965181.20130527011024@cypressintegrated.com> <51A2FD10.7030906@gmail.com> <293168642.20130527032001@cypressintegrated.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 10:01:13 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Sanford Whiteman , =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Leszek_Krupi=F1ski?= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011613e875152b04ddae8d61 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] date.timezone E_WARNING -- Really necessary? What's the rationale? From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --089e011613e875152b04ddae8d61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Sanford Whiteman > wrote: > > > I am simply making the point that UTC is not the "default default" > > even when sysops or devs put their hands in. The choice isn't just UTC > > or what the end user personally sets. Domain time exists, no matter if > > Pierre has experienced it or not. > > Ok, let me rephrase it in a more understandable way. > > We had it the way you are wishing it. It caused hundred of side > effects, bugs reports, bad behaviors, etc. This is something we don't > want to see again. Not because either the system administrators or the > application developers are not willing to add one line to php.ini or > to their application. For all the reasoning behind this choice, please > check the numerous bugs reports and discussions on internals. > Could you please provide a link to discussions that have already taken place on this topic? I just waded through the results for "date.timezone warning" on markmail, but couldn't find any particularly relevant discussion (apart from this one). Thanks, Nikita --089e011613e875152b04ddae8d61--