Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:67548 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11094 invoked from network); 27 May 2013 07:27:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 May 2013 07:27:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.44 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.44 mail-la0-f44.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.44] ([209.85.215.44:37821] helo=mail-la0-f44.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F8/5F-32733-DDA03A15 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 03:27:25 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fr10so6223813lab.31 for ; Mon, 27 May 2013 00:27:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mOeFZQYeOF9tFnaFooCrDujHBtj+xAZat+XaFF6HE4o=; b=TVQw8y3gIaKdn9ytRPASN55L8Bs+DliTFNz/ks/1hrP9rnX9pWehbBv4rqp4cFbaZY bZfz/71pCKWBYkZAVBt06r2P5PT8b58y6yRE35mNkuyJVT/yfzP3uKkzg4Toy0JNMUOQ 79CM1qHbyAHFmYvjTJ7aY0HVL9f1Sqy0ebjG0F2/1arkG37iueQFDjwO3JFg6T0iTbyH BxlXluYYXqjGjHg3O/Vj6uiLtpQiwNW76/D0xv8sGmiJLo964bMiU2dMJVjaeEFqxe9O hz/7yVbnaWcx8FaWh+pZ+qzjuSqLg2vkQXsO0yvdW6wwq6MZiTYQ2/+Ca0aL4ExzZXJy uhBw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.190.73 with SMTP id go9mr13748356lbc.43.1369639641565; Mon, 27 May 2013 00:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.138.135 with HTTP; Mon, 27 May 2013 00:27:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <293168642.20130527032001@cypressintegrated.com> References: <51A092FC.4010700@wikimedia.org> <51A1AF3E.5000704@sugarcrm.com> <51A2D395.5030302@sugarcrm.com> <1022965181.20130527011024@cypressintegrated.com> <51A2FD10.7030906@gmail.com> <293168642.20130527032001@cypressintegrated.com> Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 09:27:21 +0200 Message-ID: To: Sanford Whiteman Cc: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Leszek_Krupi=F1ski?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] date.timezone E_WARNING -- Really necessary? What's the rationale? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Sanford Whiteman wrote: > I am simply making the point that UTC is not the "default default" > even when sysops or devs put their hands in. The choice isn't just UTC > or what the end user personally sets. Domain time exists, no matter if > Pierre has experienced it or not. Ok, let me rephrase it in a more understandable way. We had it the way you are wishing it. It caused hundred of side effects, bugs reports, bad behaviors, etc. This is something we don't want to see again. Not because either the system administrators or the application developers are not willing to add one line to php.ini or to their application. For all the reasoning behind this choice, please check the numerous bugs reports and discussions on internals. Cheers. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org