Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:67517 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54748 invoked from network); 25 May 2013 15:06:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 2013 15:06:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.173 mail-ob0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.173] ([209.85.214.173:35010] helo=mail-ob0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9B/25-25010-E73D0A15 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 11:06:39 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id eh20so6498760obb.4 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 08:06:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GietCoGvOXSKqAjIrCSQfVJbF9xwh0sgxC2cVYAG2mo=; b=Fbk4mC6eisFim6Ikk/r9RLrLuUXhs3muBJfuk4jUei/gkNfcvcs7Dyp1Cmivh76jj6 UuyVxV74MynsJB3MWuOUZ87va5TJLfZLY8TxsJLBGms3Oy1HxwgU2/X8phG38TJPjq2r VhC/J/E8dFVxNBZdbzs8IIPKsSDEwyRkfAcubYhwTRw0LKd2ff6UfEUZE4FGKEJXa87Q iB5fBqodFY2cKxKwnSjJdbJIwJKOTQTct4Ex3rWlhTRhqaZs6lKEIhv54ww866NM7fJK PNCNa9zPH63nVO1fRq/SWx1KHsOLRyHSdgdnBvpzDkIYLo8cuJ5VE3/aq5+qzvG7SgLm U6iA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.134.71 with SMTP id pi7mr1983555oeb.107.1369494395965; Sat, 25 May 2013 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.150.193 with HTTP; Sat, 25 May 2013 08:06:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51A092FC.4010700@wikimedia.org> Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 09:06:35 -0600 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Tim Starling , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] date.timezone E_WARNING -- Really necessary? What's the rationale? From: morrison.levi@gmail.com (Levi Morrison) On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: >> For the record, the behavior requested in this thread is what we had in >> earlier versions, all we got was plenty of bugs reports about wrong TZ >> detections. > > This issue is less about date.timezone than being able to run without > an ini file. I did not do a very good job explaining what I meant. I meant to say that requiring the timezone to be set prevents you from running without an ini file without any warnings. This is a big annoyance.