Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:67513 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 40909 invoked from network); 25 May 2013 12:30:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 May 2013 12:30:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre@archlinux.de; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre@archlinux.de; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain archlinux.de designates 85.214.245.131 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre@archlinux.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 85.214.245.131 server.archlinux.de Received: from [85.214.245.131] ([85.214.245.131:44049] helo=server.archlinux.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 03/D2-25010-8EEA0A15 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 08:30:33 -0400 Received: from server.archlinux.de (server.archlinux.de [85.214.245.131]) (Authenticated sender: pierre@archlinux.de) by server.archlinux.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0F8F91FF525 for ; Sat, 25 May 2013 14:30:29 +0200 (CEST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 14:30:28 +0200 To: internals@lists.php.net Organization: Arch Linux In-Reply-To: References: <51A092FC.4010700@wikimedia.org> Message-ID: X-Sender: pierre@archlinux.de User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] date.timezone =?UTF-8?Q?E=5FWARNING=20--=20Really?= =?UTF-8?Q?=20necessary=3F=20What=27s=20the=20rationale=3F?= From: pierre@archlinux.de (Pierre Schmitz) Am 25.05.2013 14:09, schrieb Pierre Joye: > On May 25, 2013 12:31 PM, "Tim Starling" wrote: > . >> >> It's Derick's prerogative to annoy all users half to death with >> warnings, as his way of indicating his distaste for the state of OS >> support for querying of system timezone. > > It is actually only about getting safe, cross platform/OS (even between > Linux versions) for the TZ database. It has nothing to do with taste or > similar subjective opinion. > > For the record, the behavior requested in this thread is what we had in > earlier versions, all we got was plenty of bugs reports about wrong TZ > detections. > > I think it is not too much asking to set it in php.ini or in your > application. Wouldn't it be possible to have it default to the system's timezone if available? Most software seems to be able to use the correct timezone. From a user's pov it is strange that PHP is pretty much the only service which has to have it's own timezone configuration. Or maybe one could make it a compile time option and distros that for some reason have no usable system time zone can disable this feature. Greetings, Pierre -- Pierre Schmitz, https://pierre-schmitz.com