Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:67484 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7027 invoked from network); 24 May 2013 08:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 May 2013 08:32:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=johannes@schlueters.de; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=johannes@schlueters.de; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain schlueters.de from 217.114.211.66 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: johannes@schlueters.de X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.114.211.66 config.schlueters.de Received: from [217.114.211.66] ([217.114.211.66:33135] helo=config.schlueters.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D0/14-20943-8A52F915 for ; Fri, 24 May 2013 04:32:41 -0400 Received: from [192.168.2.20] (ppp-46-244-144-46.dynamic.mnet-online.de [46.244.144.46]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by config.schlueters.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3083E6551D; Fri, 24 May 2013 10:32:37 +0200 (CEST) To: Kris Craig Cc: Levi Morrison , Leszek =?UTF-8?Q?Krupi=C5=84ski?= , internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: References: <519E77B4.2050503@sugarcrm.com> <519EFF2B.501@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 10:34:02 +0200 Message-ID: <1369384442.2381.3.camel@guybrush> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] date.timezone E_WARNING -- Really necessary? What's the rationale? From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=) On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 01:16 -0700, Kris Craig wrote: > Couldn't we take a page from MySQL's book and have a setup script that > prompts the admin for this (much like theirs prompts for a root password). > A reminder to run it could be added as a nag at the end of the install; > or, perhaps even have it give you these setup prompts at the end of make > install. This way, any environment-specific settings we think should be > there that don't have obvious defaults, like date.timezone, could be added > as prompts in the setup script. This would enable even inexperienced > admins to add these settings without cluttering-up the bugs tracker. An estimate of >90% of our users who are actually installing PHP themselves are using distribution packages of PHP and not our sources. They expect `[yum|apt-get|...] install php` to be the whole installation process. johannes