Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:67460 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2637 invoked from network); 23 May 2013 20:10:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 May 2013 20:10:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@sugarcrm.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain sugarcrm.com designates 108.166.43.115 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 108.166.43.115 smtp115.ord1c.emailsrvr.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [108.166.43.115] ([108.166.43.115:48175] helo=smtp115.ord1c.emailsrvr.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/5B-26812-7B77E915 for ; Thu, 23 May 2013 16:10:32 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp7.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2FAE31B8144; Thu, 23 May 2013 16:10:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp7.relay.ord1c.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: smalyshev-AT-sugarcrm.com) with ESMTPSA id 98C1A1B80E0; Thu, 23 May 2013 16:10:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <519E77B4.2050503@sugarcrm.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 13:10:28 -0700 Organization: SugarCRM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel Lowrey CC: "internals@lists.php.net" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] date.timezone E_WARNING -- Really necessary? What's the rationale? From: smalyshev@sugarcrm.com (Stas Malyshev) Hi! > I'm probably not the typical PHP user; I spend 99% of my PHP time > using the CLI (and not web SAPIs). > This means that I frequently run PHP without an .ini file. As a I'm not sure how this follows - CLI is capable of using ini file just like the rest of SAPIs. Why not create it? > The "U" in UTC *does* stand for "Universal," after all. It's a > sensible default and as such shouldn't I don't think it's a sensible default - people don't actually use UTC when considering dates. A minority of people can use timezone that coincides with UTC, but not very many use actual UTC. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Software Architect SugarCRM: http://www.sugarcrm.com/ (408)454-6900 ext. 227