Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:67263 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72830 invoked from network); 1 May 2013 23:33:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 May 2013 23:33:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tom@samplonius.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tom@samplonius.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain samplonius.org from 209.85.160.51 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tom@samplonius.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.51 mail-pb0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.51] ([209.85.160.51:42945] helo=mail-pb0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1A/00-06131-F26A1815 for ; Wed, 01 May 2013 19:33:04 -0400 Received: by mail-pb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id wy7so17828pbc.38 for ; Wed, 01 May 2013 16:33:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=D6lW2o1OQ9E8PDYRcvmZ66jjetO3KpVhl8r+R9gxo0o=; b=dHvTrd9XnBUesnzSaN5Sg1MlVhZVtjNpxwc6YYm5dUgybjzHxBimobymAII7roqIRq AetoSozXrHjs6wfIcxdt0/I3cabsvahZGrGJXFd0w5JqhmTlzE3pPJ6F3etPmNbreXCh iNbaUhvEapod6+hHiKWb94eOIEVIehEKpAsuBNMUkyeSyUIURzLsD817FXC5qn0qMDzi VFuLqa+6jGn3lliIVsc19a67AqS4YQck7CBy6IOiuWgy8mnJSc4B0Uw5xubh+xGWGTCH mikgQaD18tl0KoccTyJ4vFszLTBVtegLQ+RBRC+F6YBLrslGF+9qdYiCmHU/PA13w5Dv osUQ== X-Received: by 10.68.239.132 with SMTP id vs4mr6179162pbc.147.1367451180615; Wed, 01 May 2013 16:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.116] (corp.navigata.ca. [204.244.110.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ak1sm4711101pbc.10.2013.05.01.16.32.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 01 May 2013 16:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 16:32:52 -0700 Cc: Ferenc Kovacs , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <7DCB0A94-2A6D-4818-9117-321254835F2E@samplonius.org> References: To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Guilherme_Capil=E9?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnEmkYpYq154AcWmPQamuOk+bPUwDL/6QbCsapQgK2W6cdYjQPDMvDG4HoFmIqaw4z3ZUt6 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PDO Extension contributions From: tom@samplonius.org (Tom Samplonius) On 2013-05-01, at 6:28 AM, Guilherme Capil=E9 wrote: > Ola Ferenc, >=20 > I'm willing to resurrect the development, how can I do it? Right now > I'm having trouble in making a simple patch applied... >=20 ... I support that. When someone has patches to commit, I don't think the = attitude should be "...if we could (either) resurrect the = development...". Someone is trying to do that! PHP development needs = to get better about on-boarding new developers. I've submitted a patch = to the docs before, and it took months to be applied. This type of = experience actively discourages new developers. And the PHP dev mailing = list is filled with "if only someone would submit patches" comments from = the current developers. One of the current PHP developers should spend some time spotting = valuable patches, and helpful new contributors, because if all they do = is bring onboard 5 new developers per year, that will accomplish more = for PHP than any code they themselves could write. I think the PDO_DBLIB is important. I use it, and I've just switched = jobs, and found that they use it all over the place too. I was = surprised to learn that it is broken or nearly broken in 5.4. And we = use it for Sybase too. Tom=