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Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 08:12:13 -0400
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To: Jannik Zschiesche <hello@apfelbox.net>
Cc: Lazare Inepologlou <linepogl@gmail.com>, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>, 
	Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] property de-referencing
From: rasmus@mindplay.dk (Rasmus Schultz)

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>
> This won't work, because Task::$task is a protected property


It will work for code that's properly documented with @property annotations=
.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:05 AM, Jannik Zschiesche <hello@apfelbox.net>wrote=
:

> Hi,
>
>   Lazare Inepologlou <linepogl@gmail.com>
>  Mittwoch, 1. Mai 2013 10:55
> Hello,
>
> 2013/5/1 Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com> <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
>
>
>
> The result is the same with "new ReplectionMethod('foo','bar')". The adde=
d
> value is that it can be statically checked.
>
>  well... yes and no.
>
> Take the Symfony2 example:
> you want to reference ^$task->task with autocompletion in your IDE?
>
> This won't work, because Task::$task is a protected property. Symfony2
> does the magic for you and automagically accesses the getters and setters=
.
> This probably won't work with property references, since you can't get th=
e
> getters and setters for it (except relying on the name of the property as
> string and manipulating it).
>
> Soo... I guess, for this feature, to be useful, we need object accessors
> first (which were recently rejected by vote)?
>
>
> Cheers
> Jannik
>
>
> Lazare INEPOLOGLOU
> Ing=E9nieur Logiciel
>
>   Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
>  Mittwoch, 1. Mai 2013 01:12
> Hi!
>
>
> PHP has functions that can be result of __call or arbitrary code that
> implements fcall handler in an extension. What would be returned then?
>   Lazare Inepologlou <linepogl@gmail.com>
>  Mittwoch, 1. Mai 2013 00:20
> 2013/4/30 Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
>
> In C#, they had the intention to introduce the operator infoof(...) to ge=
t
> the reflection, not only of properties, but of virtually everything in th=
e
> language. They abandoned the idea because it is really hard to do that fo=
r
> overloaded functions and they did not want to do all that work for a half
> baked feature:
>
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ericlippert/archive/2009/05/21/in-foof-we-trust-a=
-dialogue.aspx
>
> However, PHP does not have overloaded functions, which makes things
> significantly easier, so maybe it is worth examining the idea.
>
>
> Lazare INEPOLOGLOU
> Ing=E9nieur Logiciel
>
>   Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
>  Dienstag, 30. April 2013 23:00
>
> It is certainly not worth overloading the XOR operator for.
>
> -Rasmus
>
>
>   Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@sugarcrm.com>
>  Dienstag, 30. April 2013 22:58
> Hi!
>
>
> You probably have use case for that, and it should be pretty easy to
> write a class that does that, but why it should be in the language? It
> certainly doesn't look like something sizeable portion of PHP devs would
> do frequently.
>
>

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