Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66743 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69444 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2013 05:18:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Mar 2013 05:18:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com does not designate 209.85.210.175 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.175 mail-ia0-f175.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.175] ([209.85.210.175:56640] helo=mail-ia0-f175.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5B/E1-35504-6A9EB415 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:18:31 -0500 Received: by mail-ia0-f175.google.com with SMTP id y26so3133337iab.6 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:18:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:mime-version:x-mailer:thread-index:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=UnzdLiYuzADmSAtX+iXMIXeHidDDra60GirO/jOYD20=; b=HjvQOUZfzDIDtLnXY82XXvPZc3e7JY+Khv3NK6uwmkRYAIIpiY4Qvd5Pqa4OpFdY2x NU2WewC+ssxYmBkXivrxmYqZe4TC45QmNB617WKbN7Am8NH9UsInYo6Ka/nC3PkKzzye VXbPmj6OW+MNMpN04ymMCM/ZT2Ks0dkQ4+NMLGKRA6UOTg9QEeddiu84vwhCUozQFG8Q XjOywQup5VsP5UwLGrNHKKgFnZF6hRzpbEpdisV8nXhd9okkp//oJC720Uwy+O+1BZrW pQsJ/SYYYddj/8kpFLe/jj0MSw4+zq2s7GRisaa4bfypbhS2uDwEJRyBw2OmJgJIO446 PitA== X-Received: by 10.50.150.228 with SMTP id ul4mr331653igb.9.1363929508064; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:18:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac4mvH5kFxm7Vgc8R3ye58iL99JS+g== Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:18:26 -0700 Message-ID: <88c7d143620e5d9a32041b04d5c949bc@mail.gmail.com> To: internals@lists.php.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7b60d3b71404d87c95a6 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkJzjn9StwulE7KdmN9X8Ute3QyLNpgQYoBDM0zZmbRQlFWGzxV0SBeDadbshH0mC/qzvqi+0UkBzwRFNtn3YIp070FZi6C7/gbPnLyr8NPiqB+IiLRuLTq6n/nVs6JfH/MnaDv Subject: PHP 5.5 Upgrade Notes Question From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans) --f46d043c7b60d3b71404d87c95a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Just reading the excellent PHP 5.5 Upgrades Notes - https://raw.github.com/php/php-src/php-5.5.0beta1/UPGRADING Some questions: - Dropped support for Windows XP & 2003: o Was this an RFC? At what point was it decided? (I may have missed it in that case I=E2=80=99d just appreciate a pointer to where it was decided). I= am asking because XP still seems to be quite prevalent and while Microsoft wants to incentivize people to upgrade by being aggressive around end of life, not sure that=E2=80=99s the most convenient for our users. - In =E2=80=9CBackwards Incompatible Changes=E2=80=9D there=E2=80= =99s a big list of BC changes that are internals and don=E2=80=99t impact user land. So could com= e across a lot more intimidating than it is. I think we should move towards the end of the upgrade notes in a section of its own that=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CPHP In= ternals Changes =E2=80=93 does not impact user space=E2=80=9D (or something of that sort). = I=E2=80=99m happy to make that change but wanted to bring it up before tackling it. - On similar note as previous item, should we put New Features before BC changes? No big deal but it=E2=80=99s always nice to have the mor= e positive piece first :) Andi --f46d043c7b60d3b71404d87c95a6--