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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:39:22 +0100
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To: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com> wrote:
> On 03/07/2013 08:26 AM, Pierre Joye wrote:
>
>> That being said, if o+ would have 2/3 of the votes, I think it is
>> possible to get it stable until 5.5 final, not easy but possible.
>
> We already covered that. An opcode cache doesn't affect the language
> itself. There is no new syntax and no BC issues.

It affects the whole PHP environment, o+ becomes the de facto
standard, it will replace APC or any other external projects per se in
the long run. If such a move does not affect PHP then I do not know
what else.

>  Much like a performance
> improvement patch that has no effect on the language syntax doesn't need
> 2/3. Whether it is "major" or not, doesn't matter per the established
> voting process. You can't both be a stickler for the details of this
> process and then ignore them when they become inconvenient for you.

Oh indeed, I do that. Come on.

But you'd to see that this RFC has been pushed badly in so many ways.
That's not fine. And you also (or should) know that I am (or was) one
of the 1st supporter to push into the core. We put our resources to
test, fix and valid every single change in it since it was OSSed.
However the way it is handled brings doubts, and I really don't want
to have doubts for such a critical piece of the PHP environment.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

@pierrejoye