Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66527 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 26926 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2013 16:32:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Mar 2013 16:32:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.220.173 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.173 mail-vc0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.173] ([209.85.220.173:63303] helo=mail-vc0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C9/A4-31723-301C8315 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:32:04 -0500 Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id fy27so371269vcb.18 for ; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:32:01 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=ZY7BGH5CXvp4XsYAu0NAOfQ28uOyUbiEpW7K/H95KZQ=; b=bMbIDZqVtN/ErxpBWF1lc14Pg2C+KjcADtfO4OQZg02HYOBRTLk2SHyU2HDXA7Cbso 8xh7ut9hiKwPKCeJAAOjg85hRR8faJ7YHM0ICU5ceD+bVE0VRYQX+HD4mKXDbE3FdZJy 6yaE+zySiHGDjHCSWnxZaA2vq32sGwqicdjM13YkVbs7DQln3A6Qhmd4wUPD2vfeUM3O X7pEr1aoUA09UkyYErJ5d8iy7m4KEg9XF/8B9LJtVPyvBUP1v+ojLb15goxLd/jTj5VC +mbXk7Bv4SGgNCzHAU7aI3qo/Q39YpiSwAuhl89vREKFQZ3NTDZNA74Uy7hNfkhIku7H pPTQ== X-Received: by 10.52.34.170 with SMTP id a10mr11747827vdj.54.1362673920556; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.200.148] (c-50-131-44-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [50.131.44.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm393897vdj.5.2013.03.07.08.31.58 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:31:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5138C0FD.1010208@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 08:31:57 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Pierre Joye CC: Nikita Popov , Zeev Suraski , Laruence , PHP Developers Mailing List References: <435a322ccb14090d3bcf6bf8a110396d@mail.gmail.com> <8944597477930141639@unknownmsgid> <1a0793107537dceb9cc67c616294ce76@mail.gmail.com> <5132FE98.5050201@lerdorf.com> <513316A1.1050109@lerdorf.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlG32XHS283Rxf7sFJ57OgZ3yXK0pe8sshgiDu2QmIGfS1DeZBFMFQN5Z+fRWmzGQ8nWIfn Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) On 03/07/2013 08:26 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > That being said, if o+ would have 2/3 of the votes, I think it is > possible to get it stable until 5.5 final, not easy but possible. We already covered that. An opcode cache doesn't affect the language itself. There is no new syntax and no BC issues. Much like a performance improvement patch that has no effect on the language syntax doesn't need 2/3. Whether it is "major" or not, doesn't matter per the established voting process. You can't both be a stickler for the details of this process and then ignore them when they become inconvenient for you. -Rasmus