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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:53:44 -0800
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP User Survey
From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig)

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On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:45 PM, David Muir <davidkmuir@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>  When do you upgrade to a new release of php e.g. 5.3 -> 5.4
>>   - As soon as released
>>   - wait for the x.1 release
>>   - Once our OpCode cache supports it
>>   - When previous version hits EOL
>>   - When a new feature warrants the upgrade
>>   - When my Framework (Zend/Symfony/cake) or Software (Wordpress, Gallery,
>> etc) requires it
>>
>
> You should add:
> When my distro/hosting company upgrades.
>
>
> Cheers,
> David
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It's also important that we figure out how we will go about getting an
accurate sampling.  Questions about Drupal usage might yield deceptively
low results if the polls are being promoted more heavily in Wordpress
communities, for example.

These are the questions I think we have to answer:


   1. Are these surveys invitation-only, open to the public, or both?  My
   vote would be for the latter option; i.e. certain targetted surveys may be
   invitation-only while others would be open to all.
   2. Aside from the obvious posting on the PHP website, how can we go
   about promoting survey participation in such a way that ensures (or at
   least tries to ensure) equal or semi-equal participation across a diverse
   multitude of user communities and demographics?
   3. What sorts of demographics do we want to identify among a given
   survey's sampling?  For example, do we want to add questions to determine
   what percentage of respondents have a newbie/intermediate/expert
   understanding of PHP, which respondents use certain apps and operating
   systems, etc?


There are also some other broader questions we'll need to answer, such as
what procedures we use to decide when to do surveys and what those surveys
should contain, how/when to publish the results of completed surveys, etc.

I'm sure I'm just scratching the surface here, but before we delve too
deeply into what questions should be asked in the first survey, I think
there are some basic questions we ourselves need to answer first.  =)

--Kris

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