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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:32:48 +0200
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To: Pierre Joye <pierre.php@gmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 9:26 AM
> To: Zeev Suraski
> Cc: Laruence; PHP Developers Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP
> distribution
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
> >> How "Don't integrate Optimizer+ to PHP" can be remotely related to
> >> the available of o+ via PECL?
> >
> > Actually it seems as if some of the original text got lost when I
> > switched to the active vote, but it used to read 'Don't integrate
> > Optimizer+ to PHP, release only in PECL'.  My bad.
>
>
> No offense and pls do not see what I will say here as an attempt to
block it, as I
> really want o+ in core.
>
> I think this RFC should be fixed (fix wording to represent the actual
actions,
> s,integration,bundling&cleanup,), votes options added to cover what has
been
> discussed. Add a roadmap as well for the further steps that
can/could/will be
> taken to make o+ even better while being in core.

Pierre,

The whole 'integration' point is well defined in the RFC under the 'PHP
5.5.0 section'.  There's no tight integration on the table.  The delay is
also defined as anywhere between 0 and 1-2 months, it's not open-ended.

I added a bit of clarifying text to the 3rd option, to ensure people
understand this would mean we make it avail through PECL.

I'm not going to add additional voting options at this point.  Look
around, the a strong majority of devs and the vast majority of core devs
wants it in 5.5.0, and not continue hashing with bureaucracy.  We'd really
love to be done with the discussion instead of restarting it.

Zeev