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To: Jan Ehrhardt <phpdev@ehrhardt.nl>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
From: davidkmuir@gmail.com (David Muir)


On 01/03/2013, at 9:22 AM, Jan Ehrhardt <phpdev@ehrhardt.nl> wrote:

> Raymond Irving in php.internals (Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:56:11 -0500):
>> I'm very sure users will not complain if 5.5 is delayed for a few =
months.
>> Most websites will not be installing 5.5 immediately after it has =
been
>> released.
>=20
> On the contrary: many users will welcome it because it delays the EOL =
of
> PHP 5.3 as well. The outcome of a previous vote was that PHP 5.3 would
> become unsupported within, say, 14 months from now. An unbelievable
> short time frame given the fact that many sites did not even migrate =
to
> PHP 5.3.
>=20
> JAn
>=20
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>=20


There's all this talk about the lack of 5.4 adoption being related to =
the lack of an opcode cache. I think that's ridiculous. Most shared =
hosts that I know about do not even offer opcode caching, so that can't =
be the reason why they haven't upgraded.

I know of one host that said it was because Zend Guard no longer =
supported BSD after 5.2 (don't know if it has since been added back in =
because that host has since upgraded to 5.3). Others work with LTS =
distro releases like Ubuntu and Red Hat, neither of which are on 5.4 =
either. The next Ubuntu LTS release won't be out until April 2014, so =
don't expect a surge in 5.4 adoption (or whatever version 14.04 comes =
with) for at least another year.

For me personally, I'm running sites on 5.2 and 5.3. I am unable to =
upgrade to 5.4 and beyond because of the removal of register_globals and =
magic_quotes_gpc. I am not complaining that they were removed. Those two =
settings have been a huge pain in the backside for years, and I'm glad =
they're gone. But the legacy software I have to maintain was written =
assuming they were available and on. It will take a *very* long time to =
fix and update all that code to run on 5.4.

Cheers,
David=