Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66349 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64998 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2013 19:21:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2013 19:21:07 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilia@prohost.org; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilia@prohost.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain prohost.org designates 209.85.223.178 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilia@prohost.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.178 mail-ie0-f178.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.178] ([209.85.223.178:60629] helo=mail-ie0-f178.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4E/C7-25879-32EAF215 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:21:07 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c13so2522688ieb.37 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=+cf1Ee0P6DvaxnKUhTrcqjPPhqAOpqy4GzF+3JdeX7M=; b=OpME8tnpwhih7qQx34tPmnAZG74/Bp8P/Fd9aef7wqoqHvQw+BqraYB4NIGQk3E3Sj G8uBEkm3YCCBbUaoT1WB3KyXPRkAeUJmEwyYgcSz/Y2yxUr77YdS4cZuc3ydCoOX8SNA 0+NZsFB+uRO64hCjaHWh6iiTMGepTW3Y8fD6ZveIXc3Xp49Uc71mfJOEKBB+4Bld6h67 v8jkPnsOi9P9d0VIcaTGP0dFIgwZ2UCb8d+zojQKeNCSe1zqukOmqy/51b2dpw/IWmJ8 JTdQtU7Lf6si53dvPKPwD3MIkmGYyFiTBdBWMFyGpeGcyBYuD4HEA2CXhfpYvAanOejS x74w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.212.3 with SMTP id ng3mr4663262igc.43.1362079264615; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.14.116 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:21:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <435a322ccb14090d3bcf6bf8a110396d@mail.gmail.com> <512E7870.7010208@lerdorf.com> <0b8c20490dae9ecb9f9cd4a77cf47796@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:21:04 -0500 Message-ID: To: Anthony Ferrara Cc: Zeev Suraski , Pierre Joye , Ferenc Kovacs , Rasmus Lerdorf , PHP Developers Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkv4ska+594EsDXrmUbTC4ybF0gx565faWLeWXnZDo7foN7Jpv4CgxAeioOGs2q1zwWyF1d Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) >> If you are referring to APC as the stable cache, that unfortunately is >> not entirely correct, it is still relatively easy to crash APC unless >> some work-arounds are applied. I was speaking to a several people at >> the conference just yesterday and they were indicating frequent >> crashes with APC, the work-arounds appear to have solved their issues, >> but those are not exactly obvious. > > > Even more evidence that the situation for 5.5 is not the same as for 5.4, as > a stable cache does exist for 5.5, when it still doesn't for 5.4... Wouldn't that make it ever so important to address this issue before releasing another version, since production use of PHP pretty much requires use of an opcode cache if you want any degree of performance?