Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:66347 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 61990 invoked from network); 28 Feb 2013 19:16:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Feb 2013 19:16:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ilia@prohost.org; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ilia@prohost.org; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain prohost.org designates 209.85.210.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ilia@prohost.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.210.176 mail-ia0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.210.176] ([209.85.210.176:33017] helo=mail-ia0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DD/17-25879-41DAF215 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:16:37 -0500 Received: by mail-ia0-f176.google.com with SMTP id i18so1873006iac.21 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:16:33 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=mZSyf1DmB6t1uXJWzU6uJOhv3xvo3edTHxwiV4sb208=; b=AJqZsrX4HeacQMZJsHpnsTe7Bwe/udY96gw+hBUayf8abLAwvarLSFwh/KhFNPSe3N fXNbdIMwgFocBeKSmtAQyVOeDQUDuWpCZrxFAywITAqukegg90cved7Ft2lUCTltSOS1 w9s8DZm4VLUe+r0SRUgRyjx94JxDVnf5B0exl3L8HAS2NZnieS+aTMxAtRFSi4e6i9Im tJ3f9usZi+1kt0ye50imUrm24J9ZtR4Lxzh6picXlXKaWHxll2DOHr4NyxKmXrN11uzr UZxH5bUqMMJuXzW+fnOyzNlVnWO5yLCo7V4lBTvWKUQbSMfThzXwc/bS01xhqmcVtqgE anRA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.13.175 with SMTP id i15mr4677206igc.75.1362078993779; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.14.116 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 11:16:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <435a322ccb14090d3bcf6bf8a110396d@mail.gmail.com> <512E7870.7010208@lerdorf.com> <0b8c20490dae9ecb9f9cd4a77cf47796@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:16:33 -0500 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Rasmus Lerdorf , Ferenc Kovacs , Anthony Ferrara , PHP Developers Mailing List , Zeev Suraski Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/4ZdpqHCuJdnKnORZetDspQSZ5XKOor/60Kwh5xYi1+VVOUAXjknXwkRvLI95YCx1YXoD Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution From: ilia@prohost.org (Ilia Alshanetsky) >>Well the question around the delay, is what is the negative >> consequence of the delay, versus the advantage of having a built-in >> opcode cache shipped as part of 5.5 which is likely to give many >> people an impetuous to upgrade from their current 5.2/5.3 install. > > If we get to get it stable in a relatively short period. It is hard with > APC, which is available open since its very 1st day, it is harder with o+, > new code, new algos, new settings, etc. If ZO+ was a brand new code, I'd agree with you 100%. However, it is an existing solution that has been used in a wild in quite some time an limited empirical evidence shows that it works somewhat better than APC in most cases from stability perspective. Ultimately, peoples opinions will drive the decision, just wanted to share my perspective based on personal experience and feedback that I got from people trying to use 5.4 in production and their expressed pains...