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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 13:56:11 -0500
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To: Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com>
Cc: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>, PHP Developers Mailing List <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] Integrating Zend Optimizer+ into the PHP distribution
From: xwisdom@gmail.com (Raymond Irving)

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I'm very sure users will not complain if 5.5 is delayed for a few months.
Most websites will not be installing 5.5 immediately after it has been
released.

My take on this is that we integrate O+ in to core, iron out all the issues
and then release  a stable 5.5.

If O+ will improve the performance of PHP then I'm sure users will love it.

__
Raymond


On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Nikita Popov <nikita.ppv@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>
> > No syntax changes, so regular majority as far as I can tell.
> >
> > Sent from my mobile
> >
>
> It's not a syntax change, but it is a very, very large engine change. Yes,
> it does not touch the Zend engine itself, but it adds a large amount of new
> code that is close to the engine. People doing engine changes will need to
> modify it too (thus it is quasi part of the engine, even if it lives in a
> separate directory). All existing core devs will have to study and
> understand the code. All new developers have an additional piece of very
> complex code to study before they can start making core changes.
>
> So no, this is not a syntax change, but it is a engine change with a by
> *far* larger impact than any of the other things that have been introduced
> in PHP 5.5 (like generators or finally).
>
> That's why I asked about the type of vote. I'm never quite sure which kind
> of vote something requires (maybe we could clarify that paragraph in the
> voting RFC a bit?)
>
> Thanks, Nikita
>

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